QUOTE: Originally posted by jrbarney Jim, Welcome to the MR Forums ! You also might want to try the mix of Floquil Reefer Yellow and Reefer Orange suggested in the Bill Havrilla color mixes at the bottom of the JAShaw Web site: http://www.birch.net/~jashaw/rrdata/floqu3.txt Hope this helps. Bob NMRA Life 0543