Mopac RS3's?

[Anonymous]

Anyone have any good info. on Missouri Pacifics RS3's? I am looking for information from the '60 to the nd of Mopac. I have an RS3 and am waiting to find out what to do with it...[:D]

[West Coast S]

Mopac went on a massive minority builder purge in the early 60s. I'd be surprised if any non-EMD power survived.


Dave

[balearic]

They repowered their Alcos with EMD powerplants, complete with multiple exhaust stacks. They sort of look like DeWitt Geeps to me, only with big fan housings on the end of the long hood.

Info and a few pics can be found here:

http://www.trainweb.org/screamingeagle/loco_1gen_rs.html

QUOTE: the GP12 (RS-3m)
Between 1964-1967, MoPac creates the GP12. Missouri Pacific's North Little Rock shops re-engined most all of the Alco-built RS-2 and RS-3 road switchers with EMD 12-567 engines, rated at 1200 hp. MP created a new class for them, calling them GP12's.

There was quite a bit of change made externally, mostly to the tops of the units. Major differences include: The built up boxy structure added to end of the long hood; offset cooling fan; Built up "camel hump" 3-stack exhaust manifold, usually capped off by spark arresters; and removal of the old protruding number boards.

QUOTE: the GP16 (RS-11m)
In 1964-65, all 12 of the road's RS11's were repowered with GM 567-V16's and termed GP16's. All these units were retired by 1976, after surviving no less than three renumberings. GP-16's were a MP created class, being rebuilt Alco RS 11's with new EMD motors.

I hope this helps.

[AztecEagle]

While Wer'e On The Subject of Mopac,I Have A Couple of Questions For You MopAc Modelers and/or Historians:#1:MP/NdeM Passenger Serevice At Laredo/Nuevo Laredo.How Exactly Was It Handled?#2:my Late Father Grew Up In Mart,Texas In The 30s.I Have Some Brief Memories of seeing The MP In Mart When We Visited Relatives.When Did The MP Abandon The Mart-Otto Segment?#3:I'm Planning To Model The MoPac in The 1958-59-60 Era.I Know Where I Can Get Other MP Equipment From FUnits to Passenger Cars.Where Can I Get Some Prototypical MoPac Caboose Models in Wood or Plastic?I Know Micro Trains Has An MP/T&P/MKT Prototype Caboose in N Gauge,But The Only Other Plastic Prototype That Resembles An MP Caboose Is MDC/Roundhouse's Center Cupola caboose.Your Reply's Appreciated.

[Texas Zepher]

QUOTE: Originally posted by West Coast S
Mopac went on a massive minority builder purge in the early 60s. I'd be surprised if any non-EMD power survived.

I remember seeing one of these GP12's in Coffeyville Kansas and another in Stafford. I think I was in 6th grade but even then it definitely looked "wrong". Because of that experience I always had an impression in the back of my mind of the Mopac as being an ODD railroad. But I have also always wanted to model one or two of them. The only difference is I seem to remember the exhaust stacks being more tubular and 4 of them. So much for the memory of a 6th grader.