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SD70Ms with flared radiators

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SD70Ms with flared radiators
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:51 PM
can anyone tell me why the radiators are flared on some SD70Ms and how I can model them[?][:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bassmaster

can anyone tell me why the radiators are flared on some SD70Ms and how I can model them[?][:)]


I am surprised that you have received an answer to your question, so I will give you some information and maybe someone will have the dates for the change over to the Tier I emissions requirements.
I don't have the exact dates, but the first flaired units were five units in sequence from 4635 to 4639 that were the test units. They were tested for about two years and then the 4710 was the first to be delivered with the flaired radiator as the standard model. 4000 to 4709 were all standard type with the exception of the five test units 4635 to 4639. This was done to meet the EPA Tier I requirements. The Tier II rquirements started at the beginning of 2005 and that is why GE has the new units and Electro Motive Diesel has the SD70Ace units which both have very large radiators.

I have copied a web page link that you can look at most of the units to date.

After the 4710, all delivered SD70M's have the flaired radiator. The 3779series up to 3973 are the latest flaired units. The 3974 to 3999 and repaints from the SP SD70M's and these are now receiving the flags on repaints, but are still conventional as far as the radiators.
The flags started as standard fare with numbers in the 4855 range and have been on all of the units since that time. About forty to fifty flaired units were delivered without the flag, but will get them at repaint and shopping. There are three exceptions to the flag installations. 4526, 4527, and 4528 had the flag installed at delivery in 2001 and were the test case for the flags and Building America theme. These units do not have the same exact decal as the later units if you look close at the pictures, you can see the difference.


I hope this helps explain some of the changes.

http://ncespee.railfan.net/UP/upmain.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 9:56 PM
can anyone tell me how to model these locos?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 11:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bassmaster

can anyone tell me how to model these locos?


they are available in N scale, and Overland has them in HO. If you want to do a conversion, there was a company that offered the parts, but I cannot remember the name. I went with the Overlands.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:55 PM
does anyone know the web address for the converstion company is[?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:29 PM
Bassmaster, we're all happy to help one another around here, but we're not gonna do all the work for you. Go to google.com and try some of the searching for yourself. If, after some reasonable digging for information, you come up empty, ask your question here and we'll help out.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:08 PM
the company that offered the flared radiator conversions was www.seprotomodels.com . but I think the have gone out of business. I havent heard any news about them in quite some time.

Kato is rumored to be working on the flared radiator SD70M's for HO scale.


(Athearn SD70M with SE Proto Models flared radiator section and phase 2 cab.)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:31 PM
I tried to find it on google but had no luck. does anyone know how many inches thes radiators stick out or where i can find them[?]
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Posted by WC3023 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:04 PM
I think the Rail Power Products SD90/43mac radiator parts are a close fit
Wc3023
CF7's A perfectly good use for a worn out F unit ! And they are COOL!

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