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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy Actually, they were painted both. The "official" way to paint a Pennsy steamer is to paint the boiler, cylinder jackets, cab sides and tender sides DGLE (there's no such thing as "Brunswick green"), the running gear, frame and trucks gloss black, the smokebox and firebox graphite, and the cab roof and tender deck "freight car color" (oxide red). In practice, the graphite burned off quickly, turning to a sooty black, the roof and tender deck got covered with soot, and the entire engine faded in the sun and got covered in dust and soot. Throw in the fact that the Pennsy didn't wa***heir freight engines, and the real color of a Pennsy steamer is sort of a grayish-beige. [/quote] The PRR used black for the engines with a few drops of dark green mixed in. After the first few days, they always looked black, and after a month or so, they just looked dirty grimy gray. I got to see the T1's and they had a distinct black look, but if you got to see one washed up in the right light, you could see the slight green color. The Chicago Rail Fair in 1948 and 49 hosted many locomotives including the PRR T1. The 5502 was on display and you could see the green hue in the black color. The 5511 was used under steam on the waterfront show for the audience and I was there for one of the shows. It was a time never to be repeated. Painting a model to have the hue is almost impossible, and black will be the correct color choice for most. I have added a few drops of dark green to scalecoat black, but it does not show up very well on a model. Many of the cabs roofs were black also, but many of the shops used the Oxide red on them, and all of the feight engines were dirty. The K4's were fairly dirty on the St. Louis line, but they did get washed occasionally. Thre green on most of the new PRR models coming out today is not correct in my opinion.
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