Do the following photos of these NYC RS-12s appear to be outfitted with Nathan 3-chime air horns? Two facing forward (different sizes) and one facing rearward?
The one that came with my older Stewart RS-12 is a single-type so I'm looking to replace it with the correct one.
Apparently Leslie also produced a 3-chime horn that is similar to the Nathan but the size of the individual horns appears larger. Comparing the horn on my Proto 2000 NYC GP7, it's most likely a Leslie.
Thanks for the help. Sorry I couldn't find a better close-up...
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
My money would be riding on a Nathan M3.
http://atsf.railfan.net/airhorns/m3.html
Regards, Ed
Thanks, Ed. That looks very much like it.
I checked and Cal Scale & Details West make a few Nathan M-3s. You really have to look at the individual castings, as there is some variety of the horn orientation and sizes. Either Cal Scale #190-428 or Details West AH-186 seem to fit the bill.
Tom, would anything on this Bowser website help?
https://www.bowser-trains.com/history/hocalscalediesel.html
Rich
Alton Junction
Thanks, Rich. I ran across that specific page last night.
As mentioned, the Cal Scale #190-428 would seem to fit the bill. And it looks like the horns for that Cal Scale part are applied individually. That would seem to allow for variety of the individual horns - i.e. if each railroad had their unique arrangement for a particular class of locomotives.
tstage Thanks, Rich. I ran across that specific page last night. As mentioned, the Cal Scale #190-428 would seem to fit the bill. And it looks like the horns for that Cal Scale part are applied individually. That would seem to allow for variety of the individual horns - i.e. if each railroad had their unique arrangement for a particular class of locomotives. Tom
I've purchased parts from Bowser before, Rich. In fact, I received one from them a couple of days ago.
I think I'll look to see if there are a few parts I want/need first before placing an order, in order to make the $9.95 S&H worth the while. Can't believe Walthers charges a whopping $12.95 flat fee for S&H. Grateful for places like Litchfield that only charge $4. And I paid that for a decoder and a 2 oz bottle of Plastruct adhesive I received yesterday.
richhotrainAfter I sent the Bowser link, I realized that Bowser was showing Cal Scale horns on the Bowser website.
Bowser bought, and continues to produce, under the Cal-Scale and Cary name.
In 1985, Bowser acquired Cal Scale from John Anderson and Harry Parker of Fresno, California, which added thousands of lost-wax brass steam locomotive detail parts. Don Stromberg sold Cary Locomotive Works to Bowser in 1988, which added several cast-metal diesel and steam locomotive bodies to the growing catalog.
Likewise, the Precision Scale line was purchased in May of 2018 and continues to operate by the T.J. Trains (Teresa and Joel Prantle) in Pasco, Washington.
https://www.precisionscaleco.com/
Like NWSL, I'm glad someone was there to carry on the valuable resources these small operations provide to modelers.
gmpullmanLikewise, the Precision Scale line was purchased in May of 2018 and continues to operate by the T.J. Trains (Teresa and Joel Prantle) in Pasco, Washington.
Didn't know that, Ed. I'm familiar with them from eBay (j-tprantle) and have purchased several items from them over the past few years. Nice folks.
Back to another question about the RS-12. Would that possibly have been outfitted with a steam generator like the photo of the RS 4-4-15 that you posted in my other thread?
Thanks,
tstageBack to another question about the RS-12.
Yes, all seventeen RS-12s were built with a steam generator (Elesco 2800) and signal lines. The NYC class was DRSP-8A, 6220-6236 (nee 5820-5836) and had MU on the B end only plus stand-by heaters.
NYC_RS_12 by Edmund, on Flickr
You can just make out the exhaust stack behind the mists of steam in this photo:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5414764
Ed,
Would the DW steam generator set (SG-118) work for that? Or is the Elesco a different animal?
If I remember correctly the Central had ordered more Lima road-switchers, and due to the BLH merger the order was switched to RS-12s. I have yet to see an early picture of these locomotives (built at the end of 1951) with any horn other than the type pictured, including what I believe is a builder's picture of 5828.
That leads me to wonder if these are Westinghouse horns. Many of the later NYC horns were Leslie Tyfons, but those don't look anything like the horns on these RS-12s... and if I remember correctly the Nathan version of Airchimes wasn't developed until 1954.
tstageWould the DW steam generator set (SG-118) work for that?
I think the SG-118 would be the closest you can get using commercial parts. The exhaust stack seems to be just right. I've seen some taller stacks on RS-3s and such but these look good.
From the very few photos I could find it seems as though the air intake used on the RS-12s was a flat-topped affair but about the same diameter as the one in the kit. The dome-top one was more common, perhaps it was supplied with the Vapor-Clarkson models.
If you really wanted to be detail focused you could file down the "dome" on the SG-118 kit. Still, finding a good reference photo would be paramount.
Good Luck, Ed