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Name for Specific Type of Rear Cupola Caboose

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Name for Specific Type of Rear Cupola Caboose
Posted by Shock Control on Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:23 PM

Is there a name for this specific prototype of modern caboose that Mantua/Tyco sold for many decades?

https://images.app.goo.gl/2QnVtKDz65P8mvAk7

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:20 PM

I dunno about a name, but it's only a "rear cupola" when it's coupled to its train with the cupola-end at the back.  Like pretty-well any caboose, it can face either way.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:38 PM

I don't know about "modern" but, to me anyway, it looks like Tyco took some elements of the PRR N8 "cabin" car.

http://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/241-n8-cabin-car-information-for-modelers

The extensions of the side sheets to make a "porch" on the end platform is somewhat unique as is the "streamlined" cupola.

Tyco seemed to want to offset the cupola as are some Wabash cabooses I recall seeing.

https://www.brasstrains.com/BrassGuide/Pdg/Detail/21237/HO-Rolling-Stock-Caboose-Overland-Models-87030001-1-Wabash-CABOOSE

 These have the basic shape of the Tyco car but lack the side-sheets extending into the platform area. Kind of a Frankenstein caboose Whistling

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, January 1, 2021 2:13 AM

The CPR had some similar cabooses, although the one shown below is not the picture for which I was searching...

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 1, 2021 2:40 AM

I don't think there is a such thing as a REAR CUPOLA caboose, I think they can run either direction.

That being said...

I think offset cupola cabooses look stupid with the cupola in the front.

This issue was resolved on the STRATTON AND GILLETTE by using only center cupola cabooses. No longer a concern. My cabooses look good coming or going.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, January 1, 2021 3:38 AM

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, January 1, 2021 8:05 AM

I think the original may have been an N&W design.  The PRR N8 is a center cupola version that is a fairly easy kitbash by cutting off the ends and reversing them on reassembly.  Hardest part is making sure cuts are straight but body putty fills small mistakes. I have done 5 or 6 for friends.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Friday, January 1, 2021 9:10 AM

Actually it is a not so correct version of the Wabash caboose that ended up on the N&W after the two railroads merged.

http://chessierail.org/wabash2827.html

Most built in the Wabash shops from 1945 to 1952, the last batch was built by International Car Company in 1955.

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Posted by Shock Control on Friday, January 1, 2021 10:36 AM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL
Actually it is a not so correct version of the Wabash caboose that ended up on the N&W after the two railroads merged.

http://chessierail.org/wabash2827.html

Most built in the Wabash shops from 1945 to 1952, the last batch was built by International Car Company in 1955.

Sheldon

That looks like the one, thank you!

I described it as "modern" because the angles on the cupola have a mid-century modern look, in contrast to those using all 90-degree angles.  

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Posted by dknelson on Friday, January 1, 2021 11:52 AM

I have sometimes heard the phrase "streamlined cupola caboose" to describe these cabooses.  By the way I have also seen an Ann Arbor caboose that looks just like that Wabash caboose.

Heh - a lot of guys laboriously cut up those Tyco cabooses to make a PRR N8 caboose, and then of course Bowser came out with an excellent model of the N8.  But it is still frugal to make your own I suppose since those Tycos are nearly given away at train shows, or they were when train shows existed.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, January 4, 2021 2:49 PM

dknelson
I have sometimes heard the phrase "streamlined cupola caboose" to describe these cabooses. By the way I have also seen an Ann Arbor caboose that looks just like that Wabash caboose.

That's what I've heard too - "streamlined cupola caboose". The Great Northern and the Burlington (and BN after the merger) had similar ones too.

https://www.trainboard.com/highball/index.php?threads/scratchbashing-more-gn-slant-cupola-cabeese.3330/

Keep in mind the Tyco one is a fairly crude model, not really accurate for any car I think.

 

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Posted by dti406 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:40 AM

dknelson

I have sometimes heard the phrase "streamlined cupola caboose" to describe these cabooses.  By the way I have also seen an Ann Arbor caboose that looks just like that Wabash caboose.

Dave Nelson

 

The Ann Arbor was controlled by the Wabash until 1964 and they received some of the streamlined cabooses from the Wabash to replace their worn out wood cabooses.  One was also sent to the Manistee and Lake Superior Railroad until the M&LS was abandoned and it came back to the Ann Arbor.  Also 5 of the Cabooses were transferred to the DT&I after they took over the Ann Arbor after the 1964 merger of the Wabash/NKP/NW.

 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 9:10 PM

wjstix

 

 
dknelson
I have sometimes heard the phrase "streamlined cupola caboose" to describe these cabooses. By the way I have also seen an Ann Arbor caboose that looks just like that Wabash caboose.

 

That's what I've heard too - "streamlined cupola caboose". The Great Northern and the Burlington (and BN after the merger) had similar ones too.

https://www.trainboard.com/highball/index.php?threads/scratchbashing-more-gn-slant-cupola-cabeese.3330/

Keep in mind the Tyco one is a fairly crude model, not really accurate for any car I think.

 

 

And Bachmann makes a reasonably credible version of the Burlington Caboose, which of course they also letter Wabash because it is close.

The biggest difference being the window arrangement on the side of the cupola.

Sheldon

    

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