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CNJ L6s Tender Trucks

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CNJ L6s Tender Trucks
Posted by cnjman721 on Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:37 AM

I would like to know the correct name of the type of tender truck that the CNJ 4-6-0 camelbacks used. I have the old AHM diecast HO versions that used a kind of arch bar truck which was not correct as far as I know. Of course, there was a LOT of tender swapping that went on and I have seen pictures (MR Books Steam Locomotive Cyclopedia Vol. 1, Pg 117) of Nr. 774 which tender appears to be on some type of Bettendorf trucks (?)

I think I read somewhere that the trucks I'm looking for may have been called a Reading truck, but I'm not sure.

I've gone through many parts sources but so far have not found them in HO, although sometimes the vendor doesn't picture each and every item, so it's hard to know if an XYZ truck is actually what I'm looking for.

Can anyone help?

Many thanks,

Ed

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:29 PM

cnjman721
...I think I read somewhere that the trucks I'm looking for may have been called a Reading truck, but I'm not sure....

I seem to recall a similar query on this topic.
Here's what I suggested at that time...

(Click on the photo to enlarge it.)

The loco (slightly modified) and tender are the original 2-8-0 offered by Bachmann, based on, I believe, a Reading prototype.

These have a pancake-style motor, and while mine is not much used, it's not a bad runner, despite a 5' fall to the floor many years ago.
As far as I'm aware, Bachmann no longer offers this locomotive, nor parts for them, but there are likely thousands of them out there...you may find one (or more) at the usual on-line places.  Many won't be running, and if the tender trucks are all you need, prices shouldn't be too bad.

Another possible candidate might be the Kiesel tender trucks, used on some Pennsy tenders.

If the Kiesels are the ones you want, Bowser is currently holding a "Fire Sale" in which the Kiesels are listed (unless they're already sold).  I also noticed at least one pair of Reading-style tender trucks.

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, August 8, 2019 4:40 PM

Is this truck from Greenway sort of what you are looking for?  To me it resembles the classic "Reading" tender truck.

greenway-products.com/brass-builders-corner-trackside-specialties/ts-907-tender-trucks-26-wheels-clone/

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:39 PM

Here's Dave's link as a click-on.

Not being at all conversant in Reading practices, I won't dispute Dave's assessment of those trucks.
To my untrained eye, though, I would've guessed them to be for express cars - boxcars and reefers, mainly.

doctorwayne
....I seem to recall a similar query on this topic....

...and found it while searching for photos of the CNJ's L6s locos, in a thread also started by Ed, on March 13, 2019.

Ed, you've obviously not had much success in your quest for those trucks, so I'll keep an eye for them when I attend the local train shows in the coming autumn.

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Posted by cnjman721 on Friday, August 9, 2019 3:06 PM

Wayne --

The trucks on the Bachmann tenders are close but not the ones I was seeking. And certainly, I've seen a few "tender only" Bachmann offering on eBay that would actually be a resonably economical way to obtain those.

The ones I was trying to locate by name so I could search for them as parts are the ones GEM supplied on their Reading 0-6-0 brass Camelbacks back in the day. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=GEM+reading+ho+camelback+brass&t=ffnt&atb=v174-1&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Ftrainz.co%2Frobophoto%2F2018%2F04%2F16%2F20180416-150233-C4-Trainz-4127325-05.jpg

I've yet to find that particular style truck offered by any parts or OEM source. There must have been a prototype nomenclature like Archer, Bettendorf, Andrews (or maybe Reading was the only manufacturer so that's why they were referred as 'Reading' trucks.)

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Posted by cnjman721 on Friday, August 9, 2019 3:15 PM
Wouldn't you know, I found them via this link http://www.modelrailroader.net/ho_tendertrucks.php Bowser part no. 2987 "Reading" truck. So that apparently was the only designation. I called Bowser and they are "long gone" of course. At least now I know what to search for on eBay. Thanks!
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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:00 AM

cnjman721
Wouldn't you know, I found them via this link http://www.modelrailroader.net/ho_tendertrucks.php Bowser part no. 2987 "Reading" truck. So that apparently was the only designation.

I'm sure if you join (or check with) the Reading Company Technical and Historical Society people they can provide you detailed drawings and information on these trucks.  Frankly the GEM trucks are ridiculously poor coined imitations not even fit to use as patterns.

Please, when providing links, (1) use the tool provided (the little 'chain' above the posting window) to enter them, and (2) check the link as posted to be sure it actually connects as intended.  Among other things, this prevents (as well as can be expected) subsequent comments from being incorporated into the link as displayed.  I can't figure out from that last post what the heck the actual link to MR is supposed to be.

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