How would you model the GP35 or the GP49 on six axle trucks as was done in Chile.How much would it cut down the fuel tanks. It looks like neat idea for light rail lines. Gary
Just purchase an SD 35.
Yes, as previously stated there was an SD35. There was not an SD49, but there was an SD50 released at the same time and the SD49 was cataloged. I can't say for sure (maybe someone else could...) but perhaps the SD49 would have theoretically been built on the same frame as the SD50. Therefore if you wanted to model an SD49 I think you could just change some details on an SD50. EMD did often use the same frame on the locos they produced at the same time, for example the SD38-2, SD40-2, and I think also the SD45-2 all used the same frame, as did the SD40T-2 and SD45T-2.
I'm sure the OP is aware but EMD (and GE and ALCo) made six axle (SD) versions of most of their four axle stuff (GP). Models of SDs are just as common as Geep models.
Regards, Isaac
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josephbwJust purchase an SD 35.
SPSOT fan'm sure the OP is aware but EMD (and GE and ALCo) made six axle (SD) versions of most of their four axle stuff (GP). Models of SDs are just as common as Geep models.
The OP is a step ahead of y'all. The locos to which he's referring aren't SD models. They're GP35s that started with four axles. For use in Chile they were rebuilt with different trucks and fuel tanks, along with a host of other changes. They don't have the longer SD frames, and don't use the normal SD trucks like those built for use in North America (although they do resemble the smaller trucks used on MILW's SDL39).
Here's one example. It's a heavily modified GP35 that would be a major kitbash from any commercial model (note the substantial modifications to the long hood). There are similarly remanufactured GP40s as well.
Rob Spangler
It looks as if i buy an SD35 and shorten the frame to fit an GP35 or would be better to make the frame a little longer to fit a bigger fuel tank. Gary
IA and easternIt looks as if i buy an SD35 and shorten the frame to fit an GP35
That might be the way to go. A member of a group I belong to, scratch built an SDL39, which is something similar to what you want to build, and he started with an Atlas SD35.
http://wc2scale.org/index.php/articles/9-locomotives/31-wc-586-sdl39
You can find "yellow box" Atlas locos on Ebay for a decent price.
The tuff part is going to be the trucks, or at least a sideframe for the trucks that look the part of Rob's picture.
IA and easternor would be better to make the frame a little longer to fit a bigger fuel tank. Gary
If I was going to do this, I'd follow the prototype, and keep the tank the correct size, so this all fits the length of a GP35.
It will be an interesting build. If you do it, show us progress pictures.
Mike.
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Perhaps the simlest way would be to do what the prototype did and start with a GP35 (or GP40, etc) and modify the frame. I'd assume that when the locos were modified the shell remained similar (perhaps some minor detail changes you could do) so really just the frame would need to be changed. I wouldn't exactly be easy, but it could be done.
IA and easternHow would you model the GP35 or the GP49 on six axle trucks as was done in Chile
This link has some great pictures of GP49's from the ARR going into service in Chile.
https://www.alaskarails.org/historical/former/alumni/2808/index.html
The pictures have copyright issues, so I used the link so you can look for yourself.
The MILW. had 10 SDL39's, 9 of which ended up as property of the Soo Line, then the WC, and then the CN, which were then returned back to the leaser, and were sold to FEPASA for freight work in Chile.
EMD built these with a GP38 frame and body.
Those are likely to be Dofasco trucks. There is at least one company (Briggs Models) that has a conversion kit for them:
Perhaps someone could explain to me why a locomotive that is a retrucked GP35 would be modeled starting with an SD35 model frame. Is it easier to shorten than lengthen? Are there hardpoints in the GP35 model frame that can't accommodate being cut out to take the Briggs conversions?
OvermodPerhaps someone could explain to me why a locomotive that is a retrucked GP35 would be modeled starting with an SD35 model frame.
I'm not sure, as I've never done this, but the article I linked to on the WC2Scale web site, the builder started out with the SD frame.
He doesn't really explain why he chose the SD frame, over starting with a GP frame, so maybe shortening at the tank is easier, as you mentioned, than lengthening the space for the trucks?
If the OP builds this, I hope he lets us in on it, as I would like to see this conversion.
Those trucks look interesting.
mbinsewi IA and eastern How would you model the GP35 or the GP49 on six axle trucks as was done in Chile This link has some great pictures of GP49's from the ARR going into service in Chile. https://www.alaskarails.org/historical/former/alumni/2808/index.html The pictures have copyright issues, so I used the link so you can look for yourself. The MILW. had 10 SDL39's, 9 of which ended up as property of the Soo Line, then the WC, and then the CN, which were then returned back to the leaser, and were sold to FEPASA for freight work in Chile. EMD built these with a GP38 frame and body. Mike.
IA and eastern How would you model the GP35 or the GP49 on six axle trucks as was done in Chile
This and the picture above both look like GP38/40 length bodies and frames converted to six axle trucks. Not like GP35 frames that have been lengthened.
- Douglas
DoughlessThis and the picture above both look like GP38/40 length bodies and frames converted to six axle trucks. Not like GP35 frames that have been lengthened.
Yes, I know. I was just adding to the conversation, showing other six axles GP's that went into service in Chile.
The SDL39's used the same body as a GP38. I mention that just below the picture.
mbinsewi Doughless This and the picture above both look like GP38/40 length bodies and frames converted to six axle trucks. Not like GP35 frames that have been lengthened. Yes, I know. I was just adding to the conversation, showing other six axles GP's that went into service in Chile. The SDL39's used the same body as a GP38. I mention that just below the picture. Mike.
Doughless This and the picture above both look like GP38/40 length bodies and frames converted to six axle trucks. Not like GP35 frames that have been lengthened.
Actually, I was the one confused. I thought we were debating the same loco but didn't realize there were two different kinds of locos, yet similar, that went to Chile.