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Yellow SP passenger cars
Posted by Riley B on Sunday, May 26, 2019 12:02 PM

I purchased some yellow Walthers SP passenger cars some time ago and I think they ran with the City of San Francisco.Am I correct ? Any help would would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:43 PM

Yes,

  The SP was a partner in the Chicago - San Francisco 'Overland' market.  There were multiple trains on that route and through cars many time were painted in the 'Cities' paint scheme...

Jim

 

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:33 AM

I believe UP was quite insistent that all cars on it's passenger trains - even the ones operated jointly with other railroads - were decorated in the UP yellow and gray scheme. That's why, for example, the Milwaukee Road changed it's passenger paint scheme from it's traditional orange and maroon to UP's yellow and gray after UP trains began using the Milwaukee Road instead of C&NW between Chicago and Omaha in 1955.

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:10 PM

As others have said, those cars where likely part of the joint SP-UP-CNW City Of San Francisco and other trains on that route.

Painting cars in another railroads scheme was not uncommon on jointly operated trains. I know for sure that the SP&S and CB&Q had cars painted in GN and NP paint for use on the Empire Builder and North Coast Limited respectively, as the two railroads operated sections of the larger, parent railroads big trains. The SP&S did even use some of the GN painted cars in other services without repainting them.

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Posted by xboxtravis7992 on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:21 PM

In the early years of the service there was a diesel set labeled for the three railroads that ran the route, SP-UP-CNW that also would have traveled the route wearing yellow colors.

I think the rule to have all the cars be yellow were loosened in the final years of the train, since there are plenty of photos showing later era City of San Francisco trains being hauled by Bloody Nose diesels, with a mix of SP silverish gray with red stripe cars mixed in with the UP Yellow colored cars. 

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Posted by Riley B on Friday, May 31, 2019 8:53 PM
When I purchaser these cars (Walthers) I expected to see more come out,but it seems none did.I did find a couple more (not Walthers) at our train club show here in Bakersfield Ca.Thank you for your help with this,it makes sense.
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Posted by Riley B on Friday, May 31, 2019 9:03 PM

Thank's for your input,Initially I thought SP might have had a train set in the yellow color that I was unaware of,and I did'nt want to pass on these cars since they they were 250 miles from home.

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Posted by Riley B on Friday, May 31, 2019 9:20 PM
Thank's for your reply,it's great to have folks with the right imformation at your fingertips.My nearest train shop is 100 miles out,the store I purchased the cars in question were 250 miles away.I just spoted them and had to have them.I had been boycotting UP at the time due to their treatment of model rail road manufacturers.Kind of silly looking back but it really toasted my bun.Anyway,thank's for your help.
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Posted by Riley B on Friday, May 31, 2019 9:24 PM
for some reason my coments all ended at the end,yours is first
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Posted by Riley B on Friday, May 31, 2019 9:32 PM
Thank you for your reply,I always appreciate having access to the knowledge of others that Idon't have.
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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, June 02, 2019 9:16 PM

Riley B
for some reason my coments all ended at the end

Yep, that's the way forums work.  If want to reply to a specific post, use the Quote bar.

Click on the reply button on the post you want to reply to, highlight what you want in your quote, click the quote bar, and what you highlighted will be on the top of your reply.

Hit the Enter tab to move the cursor down, and type your reply.

Mike.

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Wednesday, June 05, 2019 7:25 PM

Walthers did do some yellow UP passenger cars a while back, I haven't seen any new announcements for them.

Someone in Our Module Club told me when any HO Scale Manufacturer releases a set of passenger cars or locomotives lettered for a certain road, it could be awhile before they repeat them again.

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