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Matching a Prototype Door

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Matching a Prototype Door
Posted by FRRYKid on Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:57 AM

Yet another one for the group. What is the correct HO door to replicate the door on this car: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4558511. I have a car that I adapting to this scheme but the door that came with the car was wrong. I think a Kadee door is the correct one (2221) but as usual any suggestions would be most welcomed.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:43 PM

The way I see it, the ribs on the 2221 look reversed from the prototype.

To me it looks like 2245 would be closer

The 2246 and the 2261 also look close, but the left and right "jamb" or rib, looks too wide, so I think if it was me, I'd go with the 2245.

I also counted the the small ribs on the prototype, and the 2245 matches the number of ribs.

I haven't look at other manufacturers to see if anything else is out there, just the Kadee products.

Good luck!

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Posted by NHTX on Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:48 PM

     FRRYkid,

     A check of the April '70 ORER lists CB&Q 19500-19824 as having eight foot doors so, the Kadee 2221 is very close to what you are looking for.  Intermountain also lists an eight foot Youngstown door in their parts dept.  Branchline Trains included an eight foot Youngstown door that matches the corrugations on CB&Q 19730, with their no. 1500, 40 foot boxcar kit.  The Branchline door comes with seperate tack boards.  The major difference between the model and prototype doors seems to be the lack of rivets on the prototype.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:08 PM

While the 2245 looks close to the door of the prototype car, the real one appears to be an 8' wide door, while the 2245 is a 9'-er and the 2260 a 10'-er.

While it's easy enough to narrow many boxcar doors by removing the non-latch edge of the door, then removing an appropriate portion from that side, then re-attaching the edge, the location of the large tackboard complicates things a bit.

While the ribs on the 2220/2221 doors do appear to be thicker than those on the prototype, I think that they're more suitable than going with a wider door, especially on a 40' car.  Either way, it's a compromise.

If you want to match the door more exactly, Evergreen has half-round strip material and, of course, their wide range of square and rectangular cross-sections of strip material, making it quite feasible to make doors more closely resembling the real ones. I'd use .010" or .015" sheet for the body of the doors, then back it with thicker material used within the door openings, to prevent warpage.

While I used wider Evergreen half-round strips to represent corrugations on gondola ends, scratchbuilding might be a solution to your quest...

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Posted by j. c. on Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:26 PM

this one looks chose to me https://shop.atlasrr.com/p-821-ho-60-auto-parts-boxcar-single-door-set.aspx can't tell from photo though. 

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Posted by dknelson on Sunday, April 14, 2019 1:40 PM

Am I counting the door ribs correctly - that this, is it a 4-5-5 Youngstown 8' door we should be looking for?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, April 14, 2019 4:09 PM

That's what it looks like to me, in the linked photo, Dave.

Wayne

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