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Tempting BNSF caboose deal on ebay, but is it realistic?

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Tempting BNSF caboose deal on ebay, but is it realistic?
Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 3:12 PM

I found this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-BNSF-Burlington-Northern-Santa-Fe-Ry-Green-Car/202591815861

I would like to know if there is a prototype out there for this. It looks like a fun, cheap fix up project, but all the prototypes I found were former BN wide vision/extended vision cabooses. This one isn't. If there isn't a prototype to be found by the time it ends, I won't bid, and someone else can have it.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 3:59 PM

Here's BN 12366 from RRpicturearchives:

 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4526480

Looks like who ever modeled the Ebay caboose didn't have a wide vision.

There's 10 pages of BN cabeese on RRpicturearchives, take a look.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:04 PM

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...If there isn't a prototype to be found....

Well, at one time there were lots of prototype versions of that car, but I doubt any of them were lettered for BNSF. 
While I'm no expert on cabooses, the model looks very much like a Pennsy cabin car - don't know the exact designation (N-5, perhaps?), and several other eastern roads, like the Reading, had similar such cars, too, I think.
My guess is that it's a model from Bowser, that someone's repainted.
The ones in this link, while N scale, are of a style closer to that of the eBay item.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:52 PM

doctorwayne
While I'm no expert on cabooses, the model looks very much like a Pennsy cabin car - don't know the exact designation (N-5, perhaps?), and several other eastern roads,

I think that style car is what one magazine called a Northeastern Caboose.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 8:20 PM

doctorwayne
While I'm no expert on cabooses, the model looks very much like a Pennsy cabin car - don't know the exact designation (N-5, perhaps?)

Sorry Wayne,that's a magor caboose used by the C&O. Pennsy never use that type of caboose and I seriously doubt if any of the BNSF merger roads used them.

To my eye its a busted up Atlas Margor caboose not worth very much because its missing the end railing and has a loose side grab iron.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 8:39 PM

Looks about right Larry.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:17 PM

mbinsewi
Looks about right Larry.

That's the only correct  plastic C&O caboose in HO. There was a HO brass Magor caboose made in the 60s.

I have four of the yellow C&O cabooses.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:01 PM

Thanks for the correction and the clarification, Larry.  I have heard of Magor, but wasn't aware that they made cabooses.  It does look somewhat like some other such cars used in the northeastern U.S., though.

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:52 PM

rrpicture archives is one of my go tos for prototypes, and I didn't find anything. These posts, however, answered my question. Thanks for saving me $5.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 6:06 AM

Who wouldn't want a caboose?

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When I saw the BNSF HO layout in the museum in Chicago, many visitors complained that none of the trains had cabooses.

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We need BNSF cabooses in the world!

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 6:53 AM

I even dug a little deeper, and the only model of Magor caboose that has or had anything accociated with the BNSF, or the BN was an ATSF caboose with the offset cupola, #999961, not even close to your Ebay find.

And It appears no railroad that became part of the BN ever had a Magor caboose, but I didn't dig real deep on that one. 

Pick a caboose you liked in RRpictures and go from there, paying attention to the date of the photo. 

From what you have told us so far, it seems your rolling stock fits in the early years, right after the merger.

I'm not sure how that Tier4 fits in, but it's all in fun!

One of the dash 9's still in the warbonet paint would fit in your time period.  There are some real rough ones out there as far as "weathered".

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:53 AM

Athearn and Atlas have both made accurate BNSF cabooses, used as a shoving (or in BNSF terms "riding") platform.

http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=RND87917

http://archive.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/hoevcaboose/0816/20004145.jpg

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:39 PM

mbinsewi
One of the dash 9's still in the warbonet paint would fit in your time period. There are some real rough ones out there as far as "weathered"

I just saw a dash 9 in warbonnet livery Monday in San Bernardino. I was happy to see that there were still some out there. I always loved that paint job.

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Posted by bearman on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:47 PM

I have one of those C&O cabooes on my layout.  but the paint has been stripped and the color scheme changed to the one I use for my free lanced railroad.  It was bought used and real cheap from C&O is the way the story goes.

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:59 PM

As of 2019, BNSF still uses a lot of stuff that would have seen their heyday right after the merging, so having BNSF cabooses is plenty accurate with up to date modeling... What drives me nuts, however, is that they bolt up perfectly good BN cabooses and use them as shove platforms. Seems like a waste of an iconic piece of railroad, especially since you can't even go into them.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:31 PM

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they bolt up perfectly good BN cabooses and use them as shove platforms. Seems like a waste of an iconic piece of railroad, especially since you can't even go into them.

They don't want anyone to go into them.  That keeps the vandals (not Martha and the .......), vagrants, druggies, and other ne'er do wells out.

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Posted by bearman on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:40 PM

Martha and the Vandellas (sp?0.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:11 PM

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and the Vandellas

Well, they probably don't want them camping in there, either!

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:34 PM

maxman

 

 
BNSF UP and others modeler
they bolt up perfectly good BN cabooses and use them as shove platforms. Seems like a waste of an iconic piece of railroad, especially since you can't even go into them.

 

They don't want anyone to go into them.  That keeps the vandals (not Martha and the .......), vagrants, druggies, and other ne'er do wells out.

 

Both NS and CSX has fully functional cabooses that the crew can ride in during inclement weather.

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:02 PM

Oh really? I should look into some models of those sometime then...

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:22 AM

The BN had a wide variety of cabooses originating with the Q and its subsidiaries, the NP, the GN, the SP&S and I suppose the Frisco.  This includes some wood ones.  I do not recall anything on the BN that looked like the North Eastern caboose, or the Pennsy's somewhat similar N5, or the various caboose models from Penn Line, LifeLike/Varney, MDC and such that were variants on the North Eastern caboose that was owned by many roads.  Having said that even the C&NW ended up with a North Eastern caboose or two, perhaps from the Lehigh Valley, so who knows.  

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, February 14, 2019 2:26 PM

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I do not recall anything on the BN that looked like the North Eastern caboose, or the Pennsy's somewhat similar N5, or the various caboose models from Penn Line, LifeLike/Varney, MDC and such that were variants on the North Eastern caboose that was owned by many roads.

The C&O Magor caboose is not the Northeastern designed caboose.There were similar designs used by the PM,C&EI and MP.

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