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Alco 251 engine factory paint color ?

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Alco 251 engine factory paint color ?
Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:13 PM

Once again, I humbly call on those with knowledge. Thank you.

What color paint would Alco engine paint be ? The kind they spray down the engine block,covers and pipes etc. 

Just picked up two Phanton Hobbies 3D PROTON printed  Alco 251 18 cylinder engines . This will be a totally new material to work with. Kinda excited about these new engines.

Either flat car loads or emergency power or stuck inside a shell or whatever. The ebay seller also has HO EMD 567 18 cylinders engines. He did have other Alco & EMD engines available but they sold.

  Just passing info on.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:25 PM

I don't know squat, but weren't engines just the color of the underlying metal?

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:30 PM

This one isn't in a locomotive but it is nice to look at:

 Alco_Nasa by Edmund, on Flickr

 American Locomotive Co. had some pretty mechanics back then.

 ALCO_251 by Edmund, on Flickr

 Unfortunately this is under High Pressure Sodium lighting so it has an orange tint to it.

 ALCO_251cc by Edmund, on Flickr

 ALCO_251cc_crop by Edmund, on Flickr

IF I were shooting a prime mover I would probably look for D&H Gray or Erie-Lackawanna gray.

My New York Central painting diagrams list the engine room color as "Dupont Duluxe Suede Gray" so that might get you in the right direction.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:29 PM

dragonriversteel

Once again, I humbly call on those with knowledge. Thank you.

What color paint would Alco engine paint be ? The kind they spray down the engine block,covers and pipes etc. 

Just picked up two Phanton Hobbies 3D PROTON printed  Alco 251 18 cylinder engines . This will be a totally new material to work with. Kinda excited about these new engines.

Either flat car loads or emergency power or stuck inside a shell or whatever. The ebay seller also has HO EMD 567 18 cylinders engines. He did have other Alco & EMD engines available but they sold.

  Just passing info on.

 

What are 18 cylinder EMD's and Alco's used for?

 

Grey looks like the promising color.

 

Ed 

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Posted by dragonriversteel on Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:04 AM

Dunno Ed. Marine engines maybe ?

Phantom hobbies 3D prints other different cylinder Alco & EMD engines. Shoot,they even print N scale GE FDL engines. 

I plan on making a back up power generator set with these Alco 251 for my scrap yard. Should they lose power to the EAF. Gonna be a neat scene.

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Posted by dragonriversteel on Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:10 AM

BigDaddy

I don't know squat, but weren't engines just the color of the underlying metal?

 

 Hello Henry,

    I just learned that at least with Alco. The customer could have a choice of paint colors. Orange,gray or a mint green color. Gonna go with a darker mint green for my power units.

Patrick

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Posted by dragonriversteel on Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:15 AM

Edmund, 

 Is that the old Alco NASA Marion crawler engines ? Love that machine.

Gonna go with a darker shade of mint green for these 251's . Thank you for the information Edmund.

Patrick

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Posted by basementdweller on Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:21 AM

A few weeks ago I rode the CVSR, in their yard were some engine blocks and the ones I saw were painted green. 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, November 01, 2018 7:42 PM

Here is a startup video.  Looks like a sickly hospital green to me.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, November 02, 2018 5:15 AM

dragonriversteel
Edmund,   Is that the old Alco NASA Marion crawler engines ? Love that machine.

Yep, sure is. I seem to recall watching the crawler-transporter in operation in the movie Apollo 13 and it sure sounded like they dubbed in EMD turbo diesel sounds Confused

dragonriversteel
Gonna go with a darker shade of mint green for these 251's .

I found a Valspar* color called Flat La Fonda Mirage that makes a pretty good institutional "sea-foam" green color. Great for passenger car interiors, too.

*Rattle-can

 EMD_567 by Edmund, on Flickr

Here's some on an EMD 567.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by mancosbob on Thursday, February 07, 2019 2:57 AM

I'm probably a little late to this dance, but I seem to remember both gray and seafoam green on prime movers on the SP. Tamiya makes a reasonable sort of seafoam green spray paint called TS60. 

 https://peteratkins.com.au/cms/w/reference-form---tamiya-colour-chart-project---web.jpg

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