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Surviving Sp cars used in Excursion with the 4449.

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Surviving Sp cars used in Excursion with the 4449.
Posted by SP4460 on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:52 PM

I am looking for info on cars used in excursions with the 4449 from the 80-90's. 

 

There are some cars I remember seeing in videos from back then, and then they went poof. Mostly the Shasta coaches from worlds fair in 1984, and the articulated coach from 1989 when it went to Wenatchee and Yakima. I also remember a baggage chair car, but I am unsure if that one was an original Sp one. Numbers, and if they are still around.

Also any surviving cars that could be restored, or could be used. Anything that has been sold, or had a posting of a sell. I remember seeing 2 or 3 shasta cars on Ozark Rail a few yars back, and a triple unit dinner too. Stuff like that. I also know of three gallery cars sitting here in Washington, and two 3/4 dome cars.

If I had all the money in the world these are the cars I would restore. I dont, so in my model world I want to get these cars. As near as I can with numbers.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 3:11 PM

Have you checked the ESPEE Modelers Archive?
 
 
Models of the ¾ Dome Lounge cars are very rare as well as very expensive.  I kitbashed a couple of 85’ Bachmann full done cars into SP ¾ Domes.  The 85 foot cars were too long for my layout so I went with Athearn 72 foot cars.
 
 
The pictures above and below are one of two Bachmann 85’ kitbash cars.
 
 
This is an Athearn 72’ kitbash, before decals
 
 
 
 
Link to the Athearn kitbash post on my blog.
 
 
 
Mel
 
Modeling the early to mid 1950s SP in HO scale since 1951
  
 
My Model Railroad   
 
Bakersfield, California
 
I'm beginning to realize that aging is not for wimps.
 
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Posted by SP4460 on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 4:41 PM

I am running a PSC Gs-6 4460, and its a what if the Sp kept it going after the last excursion.

A vary nice build. I will have to look that over for doing the inside of mine. I just ordered Soho brass 3/4 dome, but the detail on the inside is lacking.

I made three commuter cars from walthers, but I put Three Brothers sides on, so the windows are correct.

UTI Sp 295 power car, and 298 for the tool/storage car. 

 

I am just trying to get a list of surviors to keep adding to the train. Its been hard to find out the history of some of these cars from the past 30-40 years. To know if they are still around. Thats kind of my limit of high end brass stuff too. If it was alive in the 80-00's I can get it. I know there is a Lark triple unit dinner, or two? That one will be the next hard one to get now that the 3/4 dome is on it way.

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Posted by SP4460 on Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:16 PM

Really 200+ views, and no others have input on random surviving Sp passenger equipment? Tough crowd on this site anymore... 

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:03 PM

SP4460

Really 200+ views, and no others have input on random surviving Sp passenger equipment? Tough crowd on this site anymore... 

 

 

I read the above as saying that there are people in that 200+ views that have information, but won't share it.  And that statement would likely reinforce their decision not to share.  

I think it more likely that no one in that 200+ views has any information that would be of use.

I have no information on the subject.  And I'm not inspired to do any research on the matter.

 

Ed

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:25 PM

I've checked/viewed this thread 4 or 5 times, and I know nothing about SP passenegr equipment.

The number of views, and the number of people who have knowlege to share are not related.

Has the OP done his own extensive research?

Mike.

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Posted by SP4460 on Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:56 PM
As I said I have found three Southern Pacific gallery that are for sale. I have even gone as far as to find them, and three ¾ dome cars that are still floating round on Google Maps. I am trying.
I have watched video after videos of the 4449 from those eras to get hints of cars, and their numbers. They are wide in the open to get this information… Annoyingly most of these videos are poor Youtube quality, or they just focused on the 4449. So it is proving extremely difficult for me to find this information. Thus why I have ask.
Also the common information I can get is of SP stuff when it was in standard operations, and not the specific ones used is some of those excursions.
                As for the 200+ comment it was more surprise no one was even talking, or anything. I remember years past there would at least have been people posting photos, or just BS’ing to Bs.
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Posted by DSchmitt on Monday, May 14, 2018 5:37 PM

SP4460
As for the 200+ comment it wa viewas more surprise no one was even talking, or anything. I remember years past there would at least have been people posting photos, or just BS’ing to Bs.

Most of the viewers probably don't have information.  The were/are hoping to learn. 

Have you contacted the SP Historical Society https://sphts.org/   

 

I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.

I don't have a leg to stand on.

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