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What is this piece of yard equipment?

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What is this piece of yard equipment?
Posted by DavidH66 on Thursday, March 8, 2018 4:00 PM

I was looking at this pcture and was curious. What is that "push cart" at the bottom left corner? I mean for all I know it IS a push cart, but it's looks to be about 2x or 3x the size of a traditional one. Also how would it be carried across the yard? ATV? Human Power?

(Credit to Frank Jolin for the picture)

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/650814/

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, March 8, 2018 4:19 PM

It looks like the deck of a "slide-back" truck to me. Could have been removed to service the truck or the truck was damaged and they kept the deck to use on another truck?

Most of the ones I see used as automobile transport are aluminum. This one is obviously steel. It may be designed to use as a "roll-off" bed as well. Much like a roll-off dumpster but this could be used for bulkier loads.

http://www.westerncascade.net/Flatbeds.htm

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Also how would it be carried across the yard?

Any scrap yard/railroad shop is going to have a high-capacity forklift around. It could easily move the deck where needed if the truck it was designed for wasn't available.

Just a guess, anyway.

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:08 PM

It appears to be the flatbed from a flatbed tow truck. It is being used to hold a pallet with tanks for the cutting torch they are using to chop up that locomotive. The flatbed itself is probably moved around by the excavator in the picture. The pallet was probably put there by the excavator or a forklift. In one of those reality TV shows about logging I saw an excavator being used to lift up a trailer to change a flat tire because they couldn’t find a jack.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:22 PM

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It appears to be the flatbed from a flatbed tow truck.

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This is 100% a bed from a flatbed truck. Probably a class 5 or 6 truck judging by the aparent thickness of it all.

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I doubt it is a slide bed tow truck bed. It just does not look right. But it might be a really old one. It is missing all kinds of tie down points and rail sockets to be anything like current slide bed.

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It does appear to have stake pockets outside the rails. It also has two holes near the back in the center to tie down a load. The picture is not clear enough to tell if there are chain grab-slots in the holes or not. The slight incline on the back is probably to make lining up a bridge plate at dock height easier.

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The previous poster is correct that it is probably moved around by an excavator, dozer, or whatever is handy.

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Old truck beds are used for all kinds of things. They are well built and will outlast several cabs and chassis.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:29 PM

Housing construction sites in my area have roughly the same thing, its a big platform that a heavy duty fork lift can raise up to create an elevated work platform.  There are probably fork pockets in the end with the headache rack.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:32 PM

dehusman
big platform that a heavy duty fork lift can raise up to create an elevated work platform.

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Those are called "Man Lift Attachments", and to be legal, they better have both OSHA style side rails and fall restraint anchor points. I don't see either of those in this picture.

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It could still be used like that and lifted by a forklift, but it could not go above 48" from the ground.

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Lifting this from the short side would require a huge industrial fork truck. The center of the load would be so far away from the mast that it would be a tipping hazard.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:44 PM

SeeYou190
This is 100% a bed from a flatbed truck. Probably a class 5 or 6 truck judging by the aparent thickness of it all.

So, why the knife edge on the rear?

A regular stake bed would have a squared-off edge for backing to a dock.

Just wondering. 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:02 PM

gmpullman
So, why the knife edge on the rear?

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I have seen this feature on quite a few flatbed farm trucks. The explanation I have heard has to do with the bevel making it easier to load a wheeled piece of equipment from a dock using a bridge plate.

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I was working on a stationary pump in an orange grove one time when a truck with a bed like this was delivering a speed sprayer. They just backed the truck into a burm and brought a tractor onto the trailer to pull the sprayer off of the truck. No dock or ramp required.

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If it was a slide bed tow truck bed, the bevel would normally be on the bottom, not the top.

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It also does not have stake pockets on the rear, so it is not a "normal" stake bed body. It might be for hauling rolls of hay and the bevel could make unloading easier. I have no real way to know.

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But... I learned a long time ago about guessing, even educated guesses. I could be completely wrong.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:08 PM

SeeYou190
If it was a slide bed tow truck bed, the bevel would normally be on the bottom, not the top.

Right,

I'm of the opinion that it is a roll-on cable type "switchable container" such as shown in this link: (scroll down to "platform body")

https://www.switchngo.com/products/

Rather than a fixed slide-back, removable/switchable bodies makes so much more sense. Open dumpster hi - or low side, closed compactor, Box container, flat deck, would simply back the truck up, tilt the rails, hook the cable and roll the new body in place.

In the example below this is an aluminum platform (right truck) but similar to what I'm trying to explain:

 

Or like this?

I could be wrong, too.

Regards, Ed

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:31 PM

Well there you have it. I have never seen a flatbed type body on a roll-off truck chassis.

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You never know everything. Pretty neat examples.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:34 PM

Your not wrong Ed, your videos, and what I've seen in the construction trades, confirm that this is a "roll-off" type of bed.

Iron workers on many of the job sites I've been on, use these.  They are not for forklifts, those are only about 3' wide, and get chained to the lift.  Been on many of them.

It's just what your videos show it is.

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Posted by DavidH66 on Friday, March 9, 2018 7:50 AM

thanks for the replies, now on to part two, How would I model it? Surprise

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