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Hayes Wheel Stop Questions

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Hayes Wheel Stop Questions
Posted by FRRYKid on Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM

Got yet more questions for the forums: What color(s) did railroads paint Hayes wheel stops? Secondly, how far from the end of the rails were the stops placed? Third, is there anything else I need to use on the use of these detail parts?

As usual, thank you for any assistance the forums can provide.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:07 AM
As there appears to be 4 types of stops, I hope that this helps, doesn’t mention colours though.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:18 AM

I use the Tomar # 803 HO wheel stops and I think they make a pretty neat detail.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Tomar-HO-Hayes-Wheel-Stop-p/tmi-803.htm

They are nearly a perfect reproduction of the type SF Hayes shown in the link the Bear provided.

I gave mine a light mist of white primer then brush painted a thinned yellow. Some I left white as I recall seeing some painted white. Modern applications may use day-glo red or safety green/yellow. I followed with a bit of rust colored wash.

I stick them to the rail with a dab of Aleen's clear tacky glue.

I have seen them placed on sidings where the track was out of service beyond the wheel stop but the track continued for several hundred yards. Otherwise, they can be placed about 36" from the rail ends, the main thing being that there was a few ties for the wheel stops to grip the earth if a car were to be shoved against them.

NO stopping block or wheel stop is 100% effective as the Federal Express proved back in 1953.

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Posted by FRRYKid on Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:53 AM

As there appears to be 4 types of stops, I hope that this helps, doesn’t mention colours though.

Cheers, the Bear.Smile

 

In looking at the specifications, it is mentioned that the stops come from the factory in Red Oxide.

gmpullman

I use the Tomar # 803 HO wheel stops and I think they make a pretty neat detail.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Tomar-HO-Hayes-Wheel-Stop-p/tmi-803.htm

They are nearly a perfect reproduction of the type SF Hayes shown in the link the Bear provided.

Those just happen to be the ones that I have coming.

gmpullman

I gave mine a light mist of white primer then brush painted a thinned yellow. Some I left white as I recall seeing some painted white. Modern applications may use day-glo red or safety green/yellow. I followed with a bit of rust colored wash.

I stick them to the rail with a dab of Aleen's clear tacky glue.

I have seen them placed on sidings where the track was out of service beyond the wheel stop but the track continued for several hundred yards. Otherwise, they can be placed about 36" from the rail ends, the main thing being that there was a few ties for the wheel stops to grip the earth if a car were to be shoved against them.

NO stopping block or wheel stop is 100% effective as the Federal Express proved back in 1953.

Have Fun, Ed

Even before your post, I was leaning toward painting them yellow.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 AM

They are primer from the factory, yellow, white, or red installed on the track, a silver bare metal color after the car hits them and busts them in half and then a rusty color the next day.  Smile

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:23 AM

As there appears to be 4 types of stops, I hope that this helps, doesn’t mention colours though.

Cheers, the Bear.Smile

 

I have seen the SF cushion wheel stop in the illustration that the Bear provided the site to, painted bright yellow, sometimes orange, but now and then also left in brownish red primer.  I am not sure whether the crews decide or whether they are following uniform standards.  
As you can see in the illustration on the site it partly rests against the side of a tie so the impact is in par transmitted to that tie.  There are usually a few ties behind it -- rarely have I seen it against the very last tie.  
Oddly enough on a siding in East Galesburg the crew installed it against a steel tie which has an entirely different verticle surface, not the flat end of a wood tie.
 
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Posted by charlie9 on Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:53 AM

I don't think the railroads I worked for ever painted anything unless they were getting ready to sell it.   Other than bumping posts in passenger stations, I never saw anything at the end of a track other that a couple of old cross ties and a pile of dirt.   If I were going to paint the type of wheel stops you mention, I would go with bright yellow.

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Posted by NittanyLion on Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:26 PM

Until a couple years ago, I knew where there were a pair sticking up out of the weeds at the end of a parking lot decades after the rest of the rails were lifted.  There were fragments of ancient yellow paint on them.

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