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Sand Service Questions

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Sand Service Questions
Posted by FRRYKid on Monday, December 22, 2014 12:57 PM

Was/is there a specific way that railroads delivered sand to their yard facilities? I am trying to figure out the right kind of car for my railroad. I have seen gondolas used with proper drying facilities. However, I don't foresee having the proper room for such a facility. (The yard is built around an Atlas 305 turntable. I model HO in case you hadn't figured that out.) As a result, I wonder if a covered hopper could be used for sand service in order to keep the sand dry. I model the early to mid-70s if that helps determining the proper car. Any ideas that anyone would have would be welcomed.

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, December 22, 2014 1:36 PM

Lots of railroads used older covered hoppers to ship company service sand around.

These would generally be older cars retired to work service.

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Posted by jrbernier on Monday, December 22, 2014 1:43 PM
When I worked for the railroad, we used to switch sand cars at Bay City Sand. Some of the cars were older 2 bay covered hoppers with a modified air operated discharge system. Air was used to move the sand to the dryer, and eventually up to the sand tower.
I have seen bags of dried sand used at some short line terminals. The bags are poured into the sand filler hatches - lots of work!

Jim

Modeling BNSF  and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, December 22, 2014 2:51 PM

And let's not forget tank cars were occasionally used for dry sand, too:

 

http://www.trainweb.org/mccloudrails/Equipment/MR503.html

 

SP&S had several, also.

 

 

Ed

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Posted by Stevert on Monday, December 22, 2014 3:16 PM

Not only do railroads use covered hoppers to transport sand, but they have been known to use them as sanding towers, too:

http://wc6524.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/wc7520.jpg

 

Edit:  Oops, forgot to make the link clickable.  Fixed!

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Posted by DSO17 on Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 PM

For engine service facilities that were not equipped to dry their own sand the B&O had box cars that brought in pre-dried sand. Some of the cars had a bin at each end and hose connections to deliver sand to the engines. Other cars just had sand piled loose at each end and a plank across the doorway, and the sand would be carried in buckets to the engines. These cars were used at least into the late 1970s.

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