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Autoracks
Posted by JERRY PAAUWE III on Monday, December 8, 2014 10:05 PM

When did fully enclosed bi-level Autorack cars (as we see them today) come into service? I'm trying to find if they would be appropriate for my railroad that is based in the mid 1980s

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 12:42 AM

According to Wikipedia, the first fully-enclosed racks were developed starting in 1973.  I would assume that by the mid-80s they would have been ubiquitous.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with JNR open auto racks)

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Posted by angelob6660 on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:04 AM

I have seen enclosed auto racks and steel plated sides without the roofs in the late 1980s on many Conrail trains. Some locations may vary depending on route.

Modeling the G.N.O. Railway, The Diamond Route.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:17 AM

It's true that open racks persisted, but in rapidly dwindling numbers, after the enclosing panels came into use. Shippers greatly prefered the extra protection from theft and vandalism. So while open racks weren't extinct, by 1985 you saw far more enclosed racks than open ones. If you're modeling around then, get a few open ones, but make the majority enclosed.

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Posted by JERRY PAAUWE III on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:26 AM

Thanks guys, I appreciate it

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Posted by DSchmitt on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:56 AM

This site has a photos of open bi-level dated 1991 in caption, a bi-level with sides (no roof) also dated 1991 in caption (both have EL logos), a CN bi-level dated 5-29-01 on photo, an UP bi-level dated 2002 in caption.

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/intermod3.html

There are other photos are not dated , but can probably determine an approx date from autos where they are visible.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:55 AM

Interesting link, thanks for posting it D.

There are several aspects of the fading open rack population it illustrates. One is how what were originally open racks were converted to some sort of enclosure.

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/up_rack.jpg

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cn710925.jpg

Another is how the persistence of open racks tended to favor bi-levels. One explanation is that trucks were a rapidly growing market segment and most traveled on bi-level racks, so these tended to be in shorter supply than tri-levels used primarily for cars.

It also pays to remember that photos are often taken because the subject is rather more unusual or scarce. By 1990, open racks fit that category, so their declining years are probably over representedamong pics taken of auto racks during that era.

Finally, it wouldn't surpirse me to see a few open racks floating around even today. I vaguely recall seeing some several years ago somewhere and being surprised they were still around.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 4:10 PM

I'd have to think that open racks by 1990 or so were extreemly rare!

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Posted by DSchmitt on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 4:13 PM

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Posted by JERRY PAAUWE III on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:42 PM

Thanks for the pics!! I have personally never seen an open Autorack that I can remember so its very interesting to see them still in use into the early 2000s.

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