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Smaller Heavyweight type Passenger Cars with 4 wheel trucks

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Smaller Heavyweight type Passenger Cars with 4 wheel trucks
Posted by Sunshine Express on Monday, November 17, 2014 4:32 AM

I am looking for  smaller 4 wheel truck heavyweight passenger or Express cars around in the steam days.  Maybe they were branch line cars ? Were they 75ft.?

Model Railroad Craftsman had a project to kitbash one many years ago.

Any history or info on these ? Owen Robinson

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Posted by ndbprr on Monday, November 17, 2014 6:17 AM
PRR had p54 commuter cars 54' long available from Con Cor. Many were converted to self propelled electric cars class mp54.
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Posted by dknelson on Monday, November 17, 2014 11:40 AM

The commuter cars on many lines had four wheel trucks even though the cars were "heavyweight" style in outline and appearance.  On the C&NW they had some shorty 60' commuter cars, but they also had some full length "standard" cars in suburban service and they too had four wheel trucks.  Presumably passenger comfort was not as high a priority. 

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Posted by ACY Tom on Monday, November 17, 2014 1:48 PM

A few years ago Rivarossi released a series of 60' HO single-window passenger cars that were said to be pretty accurate models of C&NW prototypes.  Maybe some C&NW fan can give better info.

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:48 AM

ACY

A few years ago Rivarossi released a series of 60' HO single-window passenger cars that were said to be pretty accurate models of C&NW prototypes.  Maybe some C&NW fan can give better info.

Tom

 

 

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:54 AM

Thanks to all for that information on 4 wheel passeger cars.They certainly looked heavyweight.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:51 PM

I assume you mean 4-axle cars, or cars with two 4-wheel trucks, not 4-wheel cars? Passenger cars with only 4 wheels would be rare in the USA, even 150 years ago.

The old Walthers / Rivarossi 60' cars were based on CNW prototypes. The "Utility Coach" and "Utility Combine" (as CNW called them) were 60' heavyweight cars on two 4-wheel trucks. The RPO and Baggage were 60' heavyweights, but used 6-wheel trucks.

FWIW I was able to swap chassis on these to create a reasonable stand-in of a New York Central 60' RPO using 4-wheel trucks.

The old MDC/Roundhouse "Harriman" round-roof 60' heavyweight cars, now made by Athearn, use 4-wheel trucks.

Stix

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