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Cinder Filled Timber Cribbing Walls-common?

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Cinder Filled Timber Cribbing Walls-common?
Posted by Capt. Grimek on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:14 PM

I'm painting Chooch flexible timber cribbing walls and liked the black cinder fill look but have had trouble finding prototype examples.  This wall will be approx. 30 scale feet high. Do I need to grey up the cinders so that they look more like granite gravel to be prototypical? This wall is behind the roundhouse on a terminal railroad. The r.h. IS in a back woodsly area, hence it's visual use but the majority is an urban-ish Terminal R.R.

Thanks!

Jim

Raised on the Erie Lackawanna Mainline- Supt. of the Black River Transfer & Terminal R.R.

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Posted by mlehman on Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:40 AM

Jim,

If it'a 30' high, you're more likely talking stone fill of some kind. Cinders make fair ballast but poor subroadbed. Weight bearing capacity, darinage and resistance to compactation could all be factors here. 30' deep cinders is a lot of 'em.

Mike Lehman

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Posted by Capt. Grimek on Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:56 PM

Hi Mike. Thanks for the reply. That's what I figured...so I guess I'll have to grey things up a bit then.

The only prototype I could find was a cement cribbing wall filled with cinders (somewhere on google books) in Cleveland that was this high. I coudn't find one single other example anywhere after a week of looking.

Cheers and thanks,

Jim

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, July 3, 2014 4:49 AM

Jim,

Take a look at the cribbing on this Garden Railroad Model:

http://www.bagrs.org/page-495581/1272823

Take Care!

Frank

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Posted by Capt. Grimek on Sunday, July 6, 2014 8:40 PM

Thanks Frank. I'll strike a happy medium between grey and black-ish for soot and creosote seepage.

Jim

Raised on the Erie Lackawanna Mainline- Supt. of the Black River Transfer & Terminal R.R.

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