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NYC tender white lines
Posted by train18393 on Friday, March 28, 2014 1:45 AM

When did the New York Central quit putting the white horizontal white lines on their tenders, was it only on the subsidaries tenders, and was it the same time they went to a different lettering style. I have the Stauffer book "NYC Later Power" and in it there are three hudsons with them and the are all three for subsidary railroads.

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Posted by tstage on Friday, March 28, 2014 9:17 PM

Paul,

The TH&B is the only one with a stripe that comes to mind.  And the pin stripe also went along the side of the locomotive, too.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, March 28, 2014 10:03 PM

I seem to recall seeing photos of other NYC locomotives with the striping, too, but long before the change to the Gothic lettering.  I'll dig through some books and see what shows up.  I do recall the TH&B Hudsons (they ran past our front porch just east of the Hamilton station)  but they were gone before I was old enough to have a camera.

 

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:54 PM

Wayne,

I know I've seen striping on a few "builders photos".  But, other than the TH&B, I can't recall seeing stripes in regular use on other NYC locomotives and tenders.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:41 AM

I've found two photos of striped NYC tenders, both on B&A locos.  Both photos are in Book One of The 50 Best of New York Central System.
Number 9 is a J2a near Newton, Mass. in 1929, and Number 35 is a D1a on the Saxonville branch, also in 1929.
Neither is the photo of which I was thinking, though.
I also viewed lots of '30s and '40s pictures, so perhaps the TH&B was one of the last holdouts still using the white striping.
A TH&B fan almost from birth, I based my free-lanced Grand Valley's locomotive paint scheme on that of the TH&B :


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Posted by wjstix on Monday, March 31, 2014 4:47 PM

I assume the striping you're talking about is like in this picture (which back in the 1930's you could get a copy of for subscribing to Model Craftsman magazine IIRC):

http://www.railarchive.net/nyccollection/nyc5297_alco.htm

In the big three volume set of books on NYC engines, it seems to me quite a few Hudsons had that striping in the 1930's. It might have been more common on subsidiaries, seems to me a lot of Michigan Central engines had it.

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:48 PM

I checked the books last night, and was able to find a pic of an NYC J-1d Hudson in 1948 (just before being sold to TH&B) with the striping. Otherwise, a very quick look found another J-1d and a builder's pic of a J-1c that had the striping.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:56 PM

The picture for which I was looking was either a Hudson or a Pacific, and had the shorter 8-wheel tender. 
At the end of steam on the TH&B, all of their locos had stripes:  the Hudsons, Pacifics, Berkshires, the Consolidations, and the 0-6-0s.


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