Pennsylvania FM c-liner

[mx1045]

I have recently aquired a complete A-B-A consist of Proto1000 c-liners lettered for PRR. 

Can anyone tell me something about paint schemes.  I already had one a-unit completely black with yellow stripes including one above the cab windows the other do not have this stripe.

The new ones i have got are in a very dark green color with beige lettering and stripes. 

When did the PRR change this?

["JaBear"]

Gidday,  to the forum.

Not  a PRR man, but it would appear that this was the colour scheme,hope these may help....................

http://www.byz.org/~morven/Railway32/diesel/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/6813359400/

https://0553ec56-a-2430870c-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/truelinetrains.ca/tlt/locomotives/ho---fm-c-liners/PRR2.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7cpzXYU6dR39rndkC80OONMgjEF4dCFsbBJ_8c-RKuzZ

http://www.billspennsyphotos.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=81623704

I hope someone who knows what they're talking about can give you a definitive answer.

Cheers, the Bear.

[tomikawaTT]

Pennsy's Dark Green Locomotive Enamel, aka Brunswick green, was described as, "A gallon of green in a tank car of black."  In low light or overcast conditions it looked black.  As the paint aged, the green became more noticeable - but it never appeared green-green.

Interestingly, the same shade is referred to by the military as, "Low visibility paint."

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - where green rolling stock was neon green)

[locoi1sa]

The PRR used DGLE as the standard locomotive paint until the PC merger. When it was started is conjecture but evidence was from the 1850s. Up until the 1930s the lettering was gold leaf until Dulox gold was instituted. Yellow was never a striping or lettering color. The railroad called it Chrome Yellow and in between dulox and chrome yellow was buff.

      Pete

[ndbprr]

The stripe over the window (often called the eyebrow stripe) was an as delivered paint scheme. It was eliminated as units were shopped. I don't believe any were delivered with gold leaf striping as they were after the change to dulux gold. PRR never had black engines. Even steam engine boilers and tenders were DGLE. To the untrained eye it is black but not when held next to actual black samples. The PRRT&HS has a modeling commitee that will advise any manufacturer in total secrecy regarding any aspect of a model for the PRR. From details to lettering at no charge to the manufacturer. Alas, some will not even consider getting things correct or at least listening to advice regarding glaring errors that could be easily corrected resulting in increased sales. PRR modelers are among the best supporters of prototypicaly correct models. Some manufacturers have had three or more runs of PRR equipment and recognize the value in getting things right. Others say take it or leave it and do not want any help. Take your choice. A good place to check things is Keystone Crossings web site that does lists of what cars and engines are correct in most details and is always a good place to start. Another vauable asset is the Keystone Modeler available on the PRRT&HS web site that can be had for free. Some excellent modeling and always good information. Latest issues can be downloaded and saved for future needs. they can also be purchased on DVD from the society.

[mx1045]

Thanks. That whas the information i was looking for.

So the ones i have are 

as delivered: 9448A

shopped: 9448A 9448B 9451A

Does anyone know where i can find the train antenna for the roof and some diagrams to install it correctly?

Kind regards

Thomas

[locoi1sa]

mx1045

Does anyone know where i can find the train antenna for the roof and some diagrams to install it correctly?

  Cal-Scale #190-498 is for the C- liner. A call to Bowser might be in your future. You may want to use the black one as practice.

          Pete

[locoi1sa]

Trueline trains is coming out with C-liners. http://www.truelinetrains.ca/locomotives/ho---fm-c-liners  The PRR color is too green for my taste but is easily corrected with a very light flat black over spray. It does look like a very nice model and at least its near the right color and has the antennas.

            Pete

[dti406]

The June 2008 Model Railroad Craftsman has an article on super detailing this locomotive, you should also add the lift rings at the back of the unit, another Cal-Scale Part #190-497.

Rick J