0-6-0T with tender?

[vintage modeler]

I've never seen it available in MRR terms, but in real life prototype was there ever any precedent for running an 0-6-0T with a tender?

["JaBear"]

Gidday, not US prototype but.......

http://www.trotskeetravel.com/product/brazil-rffsa-efdtc-estrada-de-ferro-dona-teresa-cristina-steam-locomotive-class-0-6-0tt-9-at-tuberao-in-1974,15072668

https://www.google.com/search?q=0-6-0TT+locomotive+.&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mFusUcubGcSEkwXI34GIAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=785#facrc=_&imgrc=ZZg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andre_lyyde/436213677/

http://www.fsc.com.fj/pic/HISTORY/image002.jpg

Cheers, the Bear.

[DSO17]

 Happened to run across this the other day:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFweBUAugdI&list=UUQ7Y1c-susYYEt_U7uVFxzg 

[tomikawaTT]

"JaBear"

Gidday, not US prototype but.......

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andre_lyyde/436213677/

Cheers, the Bear.

Take another look, Bre'r Bear.  That's not a miniature side tank.  Looks like a tender engine fitted with a side equipment box of some sort.

In later years at least one Imperial Government Railways 4020 class 0-8-0T (Baldwin, 1897) was given a four wheel canteen.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

[vintage modeler]

Thanks.  Looks like at least one possible example of what I had in mind.  To be more specific, here is a pic of the Roco 33241 I just bought, and I'm wondering about any precedent for running a narrow-gauge engine such as this with a tender - US, Europe or Australia, etc.  Sounds a bit odd, but I have my reasons!

[vintage modeler]

Oops.  Looks like the pic didn't transfer.   Try this instead.

http://www.reynaulds.com/products/Roco/33241.aspx

Thanks,

["JaBear"]

tomikawaTT

Take another look, Bre'r Bear.  That's not a miniature side tank.  Looks like a tender engine fitted with a side equipment box of some sort.

Darn, I could use the excuse that it was late, I lost my specs, they are very small coal bunkers hence the need for a tender etc. etc, but in reality  

Double Darn, My second link hasn't worked. 

vintage modeler

and I'm wondering about any precedent for running a narrow-gauge engine such as this with a tender - US, Europe or Australia, etc.  Sounds a bit odd, but I have my reasons!

As its your railroad do you really need a reason?? 

Here's a link to the ffestiniog railway.

http://www.ffestiniograilway.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=175%3Affestiniog-locomotives&Itemid=135

Several reasons here , I believe, to justify your reasoning.

Have fun,

Cheers, the Bear. ( will now extract myself from the briar patch).

[wjstix]

I know there was a logging 2-6-6-2 - I think owned by Rayonier - that had been built as a tank engine, and later had a tender added to extend it's range, but keeping the engine a tank engine.

Generally 0-6-0s were switch engines, working in a yard, so had access to fuel and water and didn't need to carry a lot with them. By not carrying a lot of fuel and water, it had greater pulling power because it didn't have to lug around the extra weight of a big loaded tender.

[vintage modeler]

Thanks, guys

I was just wondering, since nothing about this backwoods narrow-gauge RR I'm portraying is quite "by the books" anyway, in fact anything but.  Seems the owners of the line recently extended the line to get at some valuable raw materials and can't afford to add a bigger loco with more range right now, so they have to make-do with trying to extend the range of the loco they have!

BTW, I was planning on scratchbuilding an appropriate size small tender for a narrow-gauge 0-6-0, but I was wondering if anyone might know of a small HOe or HOn30 tender with the Roco loop couplers, or which could be retrofitted, since I have couplers I was planning on using on other projects?

Thanks again!

[Beach Bill]

Sorry for the delay in my reply;  been a little busy catching up after a "road trip" with trains.   I know that I've seen photos of such "beasties" in some of the logging books that I have, but the question was where?

I have now found an example.  The book is Locomotives of Southern Iron & Equipment Co.  by Thomas Lawson, Jr.  (2008).  This company was likely the largest used locomotive company in the South, and they had all sorts of equipment come through their lot.  On page 86 of that book is a saddle-tank 0-4-0T  with a 4-wheel tender.    The locomotive was built by Grant and went to Battle Lumber Company #5 of Sorrento, FL.  in 1912.  Oh, to make you feel even better, this one was 36" gauge.  The formal listing is thus 0-4-0T+T.

Although there is no photo, the text of this book also lists (p134) an 0-4-2T+T in 36" gauge which went to Paragon Kaolin Works of Langly, SC in 1917.   Also 0-4-0T+T from Alco (page155) in standard gauge which went to Contractor's Machinery & Supply Co of Pittsburgh, Pa in 1918.  They also had (p 231) a Baldwin 0-6-0T+T (blt. 03-07, cn 30364) from New York State Steel Co. #3 -  standard gauge.

I know that I've seen photos of others.  Clearly, your shops just wanted to extend the range of your 0-6-0 and so found a suitable "canteen".

Bill

[vintage modeler]

Thanks, Bill!

I'll see if I can round up that book through my library's inter-library loan program for a pic of that 4-wheel tender, since I'll probably have to end up scratch-building it.

[vsmith]

Most of the time this kind of set up the tank engine would be using a tender as a water tender, to extend its range, but if it was an oil burner, its not hard to rig an fuel line connected to a pump to use the tender as an extra fuel source as well.