MILW 10-6 Sleepers

[Anonymous]

Here's one for Milwaukee Road and passenger fans:

After the Olympian Hiawatha was dicontinued, what assignments did the Pullman Standard 10-6 sleepers have? In particular, did these cars have assignments on the joint MILW-UP or MILW-UP-SP trains after 1961?

Thanks in advance--
John

[Anonymous]

After the "train offs of the 60's" a lot of the Milwaukee Road passenger cars were sold to the CN and I do believe some of the 10-6's were amoung them.
Ch

[Anonymous]

Five of these cars were sold to CN in 1967; 3 were retired in 1969; and 2 (Lake Oconomowoc and Lake Pewaukee) made it to 1971. I just can't figure out what assignments they had after 1961, and whether they made it to the west coast on the jointly-operated trains.

--John

[passengerfan]

Milw 10-6 sleepers assigned to CITY OF DENVER year round and summers assigned to CITY OF PORTLAND and CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO. Those not so assigned were idle for most of year unless they found special Pullman assignments to shriners specials etc. The Milw 10-6 sleepers were easily recognizable by the round port hole type windows located near car ends. The Milw 10-6 sleepers sold to CN were assigned to overnight Toronto - Montreal and Ottawa service and could be found summers in Maritime train assignment particularly the GASPE.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, passengerfan!--John

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by passengerfan

The Milw 10-6 sleepers were easily recognizable by the round port hole type windows located near car ends.

Would the Jefferson River be among those? It's sitting in a private collection on Milwaukee's SE side, along with GN Obs car Going-to-the-Sun Mountain in Empire Builder colors.

[Anonymous]

jay_c --

The Jefferson River is similar to the 10-6 sleepers discussed above.

The Lake-series sleepers had 10 roomettes and 6 double bedrooms. The first group of eight River-series cars, including the Jefferson River, had 8 duplex roomettes (accounting for the "staggered" windows at the center of the cars), 6 roomettes and 4 double bedrooms. Both series of cars were ordered at the same time and were delivered almost simultaneously in late 1948. They all had distinctive Milwaukee features, including the oval and round windows in some locations.

The Milwaukee received a second pair of River-series 8-6-4 sleepers, Minnesota River and Zumbro River, in 1954. These cars had their duplex roomettes at the non-vestibule ends, and lacked the round and oval-shaped windows found on the earlier cars.

The Lake-series cars initially were assigned to the Olympian Hiawatha. The River-series cars initially were assigned to the Pioneer Limited. They remained in those assignments as long as those trains ran, but received other assignments as sleeping car traffic declined on the Milwaukee.

--John

[dknelson]

Jay-C: be aware that those passenger cars (and presumably the F unit and the REA express cars) on the south side of Milwaukee at Stowell Yard have reportedly been sold to a museum in Kansas City. Get your shots now. I wonder if the railfan grapevine will let us know when the move is going to be made so we can be there with our cameras, as the cars in the middle track, including that great GN observation, are hard to photograph.
Dave Nelson

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dknelson

Jay-C: be aware that those passenger cars (and presumably the F unit and the REA express cars) on the south side of Milwaukee at Stowell Yard have reportedly been sold to a museum in Kansas City. Get your shots now. I wonder if the railfan grapevine will let us know when the move is going to be made so we can be there with our cameras, as the cars in the middle track, including that great GN observation, are hard to photograph.
Dave Nelson

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The GN Obs car is open Thurs-Sun serving drinks (no jeans or work attire, jackets req'd on Friday/Saturday I think). The car is owned by the CP (through the SOO) and is staffed by volunteers. I hope it's not included in this sale.

The OBS car has always been easy to photograph as it's been on the line closest to the street. Now those cars on the third track in..another story.