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Doodlebugs
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 5, 2007 1:47 PM

Are there any gas-electric doodlebugs in presevation?

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Monday, November 5, 2007 2:35 PM

I'm sure there are several around the country.  The one I know of for sure is Santa Fe doodlebug M177 at "Travel Town" in Los Angeles, California.  M177 has been undergoing a long restoration to fully operational condition.  Find out more information about her here:

Santa Fe M177 

There are two other Santa Fe doodlebugs still around too, but they were converted to diesel in their later years.  Santa Fe M160 is operational and at a museum in Texas.  M190 is a unique articulated unit.  She was in the Santa Fe Albuquerque shops until being moved to the Sacramento museum in 1986.  She was never displayed in Sacramento and has recently been moved back to New Mexico (Belen) for much needed cosmetic work and eventually a proper display.  She might even return to power one day.

Santa Fe M160

Santa Fe M190

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 5, 2007 2:47 PM

Hello Matt,

Thank you for the info,I have the Bachmann Spectrum Doodlebug is it based on any prototypo or is it a freewlance design?

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Monday, November 5, 2007 3:27 PM

I'm trying to remember back to the Model Railroader review on the HO version, and I think it said the model isn't based on any specific prototype.  I think it said it was based on an EMC design with a generic St. Louis Car Co. body.  But this was such a long time ago I can't really remember 100%.

But the Bachmann model sure looks like a generic doodlebug, and is fairly close to the Santa Fe versions that looked like present day M177.  Not perfect, but close enough for most modelers.

I have one (HO) in Santa Fe paint, number M131.  It's a good runner for just one power truck, and looks good too.  I'm going to convert it to DCC, but just haven't gotten around to this yet.

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Posted by Bobster on Monday, November 5, 2007 6:19 PM

Greetings, so we meet again,

 Mid-Continent Railway Museum in North Freedom, Wisconsin.  has a doodlebug.  It is marked as Montana and Western #31.  There are pictures of it on their web site.  It is in good shape. It was a little hard to see in the shed when I saw it last year.

www.midcontinent.org

Hope this helps,

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Posted by dldance on Monday, November 5, 2007 6:38 PM

The Nevada State RR Museum in Carson City is restoring a McKeen motor car to operational status. 

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Posted by topcopdoc on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:56 AM

The Black River & Western RR has a famous Doodlebug from the Pennsylvania RR.

Check this web site:   http://prr.railfan.net/PRRToday.html

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Posted by Beach Bill on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 9:32 AM

A 42-seat 1926 Edwards motorcar, built for the Hampton & Branchville in South Carolina, is preserved at the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer, NC.  www.nctrans.org

 A modern version of a 50-seat Edwards car is operated as the "Cheat Mountain Salamander" at Cheat Bridge, West Virginia (near Elkins).    See www.mountainrail.com

Another Edwards car, formerly off the CB&Q is a 1926 Model 25, now refurbished and on the Ft. Madison, Farmington & Western Railroad in Iowa.

A Mack railbus is at Strasburg, PA.   www.strasburgrailroad.com

Likely the best reference on doodlebugs on Class 1 railroads is the book Doodlebug Country by Edmund Keilty.  Keilty wrote two other books on the topic as well:  Interurbans Without Wires and The Short Line Doodlebug.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 2:04 PM
 Bobster wrote:

Greetings, so we meet again,

 Mid-Continent Railway Museum in North Freedom, Wisconsin.  has a doodlebug.  It is marked as Montana and Western #31.  There are pictures of it on their web site.  It is in good shape. It was a little hard to see in the shed when I saw it last year.

www.midcontinent.org

Hope this helps,

Bob 

MW 31 was built as GN 2313 and is the third (I think) doodlebug sold by EMC.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:09 PM

Hello Bill,

Thanks for the links they're very interesting.Nice to see early motor cars being preserved.

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Posted by bpickering on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:26 PM
 branchline wrote:

Are there any gas-electric doodlebugs in presevation?

A little while back (dated 1998), but according to this, the Illinois Railway Museum has one. This is actually one of the images I'm using in repainting a Spectrum Doodlebug.

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Posted by markpierce on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:45 PM

When I toured the former SP repair yards in Sacramento, CA five years or so ago, I noticed an ATSF Doodlebug patiently awaiting TLC, as well as lots of other "goodies" including Beebe's private car.

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Posted by TomDiehl on Thursday, November 8, 2007 10:30 AM
 branchline wrote:

Are there any gas-electric doodlebugs in presevation?

Malcolm.

If you want to include narrow gauge, the East Broad Top has one built in their shops from a kit supplied by Brill. It still operates during their fall event on Columbus Day weekend.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 9, 2007 11:10 AM

Hello Tomdiehl,

What gauge is the Eat Broad Top and how old is their car?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 9, 2007 2:08 PM

 branchline wrote:

What gauge is the Eat Broad Top and how old is their car?


The EBT was built in 1873-1874 in 3 foot gauge.  M-1 was commissioned in 1927 to cover the mail contract runs when traffic didn't warrant firing up a mikado (such as during summertime when coal demand was not as great).

Here's a pic
http://www.ebtrr.com/equip/gas.html

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Posted by markpierce on Friday, November 9, 2007 3:10 PM

Recently there have been several new-in-box, individual-railroad-detail-specific, W&R Brill gas-electric offerings on ebay (Reading, NP, SP, and some other line) from the same seller.  They are beautiful models (I bought the SP one).  Last I checked, the NP version was still available at a "buy-it-now" price.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 9, 2007 3:24 PM

Hello Ray,

Thanks for the link to the East Broad top,very interesting.

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Posted by lilivalley on Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:02 AM

California Western, Fort Bragg, Ca. has ex ATSF M300

Niles Canyon Railway  Sunol, Ca has ex ATSF M200

Cal State Railway Museum, Sacramento, Ca has ex ATSF M190

Navada State Railroad Museum, Carson City, Nv also has Nevada Copper Belt 503(Hall-scott 1910)

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Posted by DSO17 on Monday, December 17, 2007 8:00 PM

     Wilmington and Western operates former PRR 4662 built as gas-electric later converted to diesel. Photos and short history of car on their website. www.wwrr.com

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:45 PM

 lilivalley wrote:
Cal State Railway Museum, Sacramento, Ca has ex ATSF M190

Not anymore...read earlier post. 

 markpierce wrote:
When I toured the former SP repair yards in Sacramento, CA five years or so ago, I noticed an ATSF Doodlebug patiently awaiting TLC

Yes this was M-190, mentioned in the earlier post.  She was somewhat neglected in Sacramento.  But it's understandable since they have too much equipment in need of cosmetic repairs and too little money and perhaps too little interest, at least in M-190.  Hopefully with the move to Belen she'll get some TLC.

Here's a story about her arrival into Belen:

Story 

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Posted by jackn2mpu on Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:50 AM
 DSO17 wrote:

     Wilmington and Western operates former PRR 4662 built as gas-electric later converted to diesel. Photos and short history of car on their website. www.wwrr.com


Just rode that one on a Ghost Tour night ride they did for this past Halloween. Old girl still rides quite well with little vibration while underway.

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