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electro-frog switches
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:32 AM
Is a Peco electro-frog swith a insulated or non-insulared switch. Thanks
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electro-frog switches
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:32 AM
Is a Peco electro-frog swith a insulated or non-insulared switch. Thanks
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:35 AM
Non-insulated frog
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:35 AM
Non-insulated frog
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Posted by cacole on Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:51 AM
The frog is not insulated and requires a Peco relay to change the frog's polarity. If you are not going to power the turnout, the relay won't do you any good and you'll wind up with an electrical short. Use the Insulfrog turnouts if you want to save money.
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Posted by cacole on Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:51 AM
The frog is not insulated and requires a Peco relay to change the frog's polarity. If you are not going to power the turnout, the relay won't do you any good and you'll wind up with an electrical short. Use the Insulfrog turnouts if you want to save money.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:59 PM
I use Peco electrofrogs wherever I can. I have a PL10 switch machine mouted under the switch and a PL13 contact mounted under the PL10. When the PL10 moves the PL13 moves with it, making sure the polarity is correct with the direction of the turnout.

I love 'em.

Happy modeling!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:59 PM
I use Peco electrofrogs wherever I can. I have a PL10 switch machine mouted under the switch and a PL13 contact mounted under the PL10. When the PL10 moves the PL13 moves with it, making sure the polarity is correct with the direction of the turnout.

I love 'em.

Happy modeling!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:13 AM
The electrofrog is a bit more complicated to use, if you don't use a switch machine you should use a mechanical link to a microswitch to do the same function as the machine contacts. This removes the reliance on point to stock rail contact (which get dirty) for frog power. Rail gaps with insulated rail joiners are necessary if you apply power from the frog end such as a passing siding.

One nice thing about frog powering is the ability to route power to one of two diverging routes, but this can also be done by adding external switch contacts to the insulated frog turnout as well. The main advantage of the electrofrog is that all power pickup wheels are always in contact with a powered rail and the possibility of a slow moving locomotive stalling out is reduced.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:13 AM
The electrofrog is a bit more complicated to use, if you don't use a switch machine you should use a mechanical link to a microswitch to do the same function as the machine contacts. This removes the reliance on point to stock rail contact (which get dirty) for frog power. Rail gaps with insulated rail joiners are necessary if you apply power from the frog end such as a passing siding.

One nice thing about frog powering is the ability to route power to one of two diverging routes, but this can also be done by adding external switch contacts to the insulated frog turnout as well. The main advantage of the electrofrog is that all power pickup wheels are always in contact with a powered rail and the possibility of a slow moving locomotive stalling out is reduced.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:03 PM
But don' they suggest using Eltro-frog switches when using DCC?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:03 PM
But don' they suggest using Eltro-frog switches when using DCC?
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Posted by n2mopac on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:01 AM
For my new layout, I want to know if I can get by with insulated frog switches on a DCC system. I an not a wiring guy and would rather use the easier insulated frogs if possible. Will I regret this later with the DCC?
Ron

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Posted by n2mopac on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:01 AM
For my new layout, I want to know if I can get by with insulated frog switches on a DCC system. I an not a wiring guy and would rather use the easier insulated frogs if possible. Will I regret this later with the DCC?
Ron

Owner and superintendant of the N scale Texas Colorado & Western Railway, a protolanced representaion of the BNSF from Fort Worth, TX through Wichita Falls TX and into Colorado. 

Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy

Check out my MRR How-To YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/RonsTrainsNThings

 

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