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 SpaceMouse: [quote]QUOTE: your goals are limited in scope and you need to explore a bit before you build. After all, the cost of a layout from start to finish is around $50/sq ft, and if you even have 4x8 layout, that is equal to a $1600 expenditure. It makes sense then to plan your layout well.[/quote] not only do i lack the eye vision but now i feel im also lacking creative visions to see what i want to do or am able to now do with my railroad. ive scoured the net and looked at many smallish plans and saved all of them. i recognize many as plans from years ago. as i did not really know what my starting pike size would be. i now know its starting size. back when i had my old layout it was all about switching both in the yards and on the road. passing tracks and long sidings. very little continous running or not without major movement to make it so . it was a heavily modifed plan from N9 on a 12'x16 all on the flat i have enough track and switches to fill the 32 sq ft.. of course i do. does anyone else think track and switches (atlas) are much cheaper now than back in the 80's? well maybe my LHS was just high margin being as the navy base was close by? anyway ive thought about what SpaceMouse advised in the quote. all day long while i was building benchwork i thought about it . as i have since deciding i wanted back to MRR even before i saw his wisdom written. ive even tried the track plan softwares to no avail . the leanring curve is too steep for me now too. my accident did not just get my eyesifght. i know with 4 feet wide i can have good curves and double mains . is there a link you all have to newer made track plans for 4x8? maybe by seeing them i can find something that will click for me. anyway tomorrow we foam if the depot has not sent all foam to the h-cane areas of far south florida. as always im greatful for you all reading my ramblings and trying to guide me right. john
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