Multi-wire connectors for control panels?

[Seamonster]

Been there with the small screwdriver. Life isn't long enough for that kind of frustration. [V] Forgot about them being in computers. If I can't get it at Active, I'll try one of the big wholesale computer places. (My wife doesn't like to see me let loose in there, though!)

[ereimer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Seamonster

If you plan to use a lot of those connectors, you'd do well to get a pair of removal tools for the pins. Once the pins are snapped into the housing, they're virtually impossible to remove without the tool if you make a mistake. I use Molex connectors and like them.

you can remove the pins by messing around with a small flat head screwdriver , but it's not easy . you'll sometimes find the pin removal tools in computer stores as these are the connectors that PC power suppies use , and people doing computer modding are removing the connectors to do wire wrapping etc.

[Seamonster]

Yeah, they're pretty good connectors. My only complaint about them is that there's no strain relief for the wires, but that's not much of an issue for our uses. I got a removal tool for the male pins, but haven't found one for the female pins yet. Funny thing is, the packaging doesn't say anything about it not fitting all pins, but it sure as heck won't go over the female pins no matter what I do. The tool has a sleeve that slides over the pin and presses down on the locking ears at the base to compress them so that the pin can be pushed out the back. If you're looking for the tool, the one I've got says it's for the .093" series, 14-30 AWG wire. That must be the most popular size of pins as .093" is the only size my dsitributor stocks. It has the part number "W-HT-2054-P" on the label and it has the Molex name and "Distributed by GC/Waldom".

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: Seamonster: If you plan to use a lot of those connectors, you'd do well to get a pair of removal tools for the pins. Once the pins are snapped into the housing, they're virtually impossible to remove without the tool if you make a mistake.

Now you tell me. I bought them on a trip north of the border but didn't try fooling with them until I was back down here, then it was fun trying to figure out exactly what I should be doing with them. I figured it was "do it right the first time" because I didn't see any way of getting them back out.

Glad to hear they're fairly reliable.

Regards

Ed

[Seamonster]

The type of connector in Ed's photo are known as Molex connectors. Although I believe Molex makes more than the one kind of connectors, that type had come to be generically referred to by their name. They're good connectors--strong, sturdy and can carry as much current as our modelling needs would require. The plastic housings come in two styles that fit into each other and the pins inside them come in both male and female varieties--you'd use one on one side and the other on the other side. The housings are keyed so they can't be connected backwards. If you plan to use a lot of those connectors, you'd do well to get a pair of removal tools for the pins. Once the pins are snapped into the housing, they're virtually impossible to remove without the tool if you make a mistake. I use Molex connectors and like them.

[SP4449]

In addition to Mouser is Digi-Key <www.digikey.com> and Hosfelt <www.hosfelt.com>. I like Digi-Key best, huge variety and especially the hard to find items, and they have an online catalog. At least you can see what is available and then check if the local electronics outlets (besides Radio Shack) can help.

[stokesda]

Ed & Marlon - thanks, that's pretty much what I had in mind. Hadn't even thought about going to an auto junkyard, but that's a really good idea. Don't know if there are any around here, but if not, I'll try the Radio Shack route.

After I posted this, I received the new MR in the mail. They have an article about how to build a portable layout, which apparently includes a control panel with this very kind of disconnect. Unfortunately, the article wasn't detailed enough to tell what kind of mulit-wire socket was used.

Cheers,

[Medina1128]

Go to an automotive boneyard. You can get various connectors cheap with a pair of wire cutters. 10, 15, and even 20 pin connectors. Not to mention bulkhead connectors (the ones that mount to the firewall. Almost every circuit in the car goes through these. Splice, solder and finish with heat shrink tubing. Make sure you put the tubing over the wire BEFORE you solder the ends together. Don't ask how I know this... [:o)]

[claycts]

In the OLD days we used a terminal strip, crimp ends and wire tags. Cheap, easy and can handle 120 volts easy. Just my $.02

[egmurphy]

I use a 12 pin connector, not the computer type, that I found at Radio Shack. The numbers were 272-232 and 272-242 (male and female plugs). They make similar connectors in 6 and 9 pin also. You have to put them together.

Here's a shot of what it looks like. Note that the masking tape flags are wire labels.



I've only had this connection a few months so I can't guarantee how it would hold up over a long period, but so far so good.

Regards

Ed

[rrinker]

Computer connectors like that really aren't meant to handle much current. There are other more heavy-duty connectors that will do a better job, at least for the track power leads. Problem is, Radio Shack only has them up to about a 6 position. Check an electronics suppy house like Mouser and you can find much bigger ones. Levae the computer-type connectors for Tortoise switch machines, at 15ma they are well within the rating of the computer connectors. But use the heavy stuff for track power.

--Randy

[MisterBeasley]

Go to Radio Shack and look at D-connectors. These are the ones used for parallel ports on computers. You can get 50-pin ones, but they may come even larger. Best of all, they're only a few bucks a piece. They will test your ability to solder, though. Lots of really small pins, very close together.

[stokesda]

All,

I want to make my control panel so that I can disconnect it from the layout when it's being moved from home to home in the future. The problem is disconnecting the three dozen or so wires that go between the block wiring (yes, I'm using DC... for now), switch controls, etc. and the layout itself. Does anyone know of any multi-wire plugs/disconnects/whatever that would make it easy to plug and unplug all these wires without having to do each one individually? What I had in mind is something similar to the wiring harness plugs you'd find in car stereos, but I can't seem to find a male-female set anywhere.

Or, does anyone have any better ideas? Thanks in advance.

Cheers,