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Saving Money On Track Nails

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Posted by hardcoalcase on Sunday, June 20, 2021 9:28 PM

riogrande5761

Most people these days save money on track nails by using caulk instead.  I've never wanted to use adhesives myself.   

At the risk of diverting this thread to a "nails vs. caulk" rabbit trail... I've used nails "back in the day", but have been using caulk for my current and previous layout, spanning 12+ years, and have been very impressed with it.  It comes in colors that are similar to most types of ballast, has a reasonable time to allow track adjustment, and in a short time after being weighted-down, holds securely.  Track can easily be replaced after removing some of the old caulk with a few licks of a Sure-Form tool.  I haven't bothered to do a cost comparison, I just think it's a better way to secure track.

OK, sorry for the detour, now, back to the topic of using roofing nails.  Big Smile

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, June 14, 2021 6:14 AM

Most people these days save money on track nails by using caulk instead.  I've never wanted to use adhesives myself.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, June 12, 2021 10:55 AM

Remember that you can use the brads outside the gauge, too, as some here have recommended.  If you build a jig or aid for vertical drilling with reduced bit breakage, you should make it capable of drilling the ends of the ties, too.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Saturday, June 12, 2021 10:47 AM

Hello All,

I too have been touting the use of wire brads to adhere track to roadbed/base.

The #19 x 5/8-inch (1mmx 15.9mm) "Bright" colored (silver) is my size of choice and fits snugly in the factory drilled holes of Atlas and PECO track.

After ballasting the track in place I remove them too.

I did purchase a box of actual HO scale spikes. According to the label, the 1/4-pound box has 3,400 spikes.

These were produced by Modelmaster Car Works of Cedar Rapids, Ioa. The original price on the box is $1.85. The box itself is old and could be from the 1960s or '70s.

I don't remember if it was an e-Bay or train show find.

To date, I have yet to find a track-related use. They do make interesting scenery accents.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by FRRYKid on Saturday, June 12, 2021 2:07 AM

Given I don't have a LHS, I started using 5/8" nails quite a few years ago. Was getting them at an expensive hardware store. I later found that a certain box store carries them for a bit cheaper (had to go to 3/4" but that's not much different) and given I work there as well, it's a lot easier to get them from there.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, June 12, 2021 2:06 AM

I use Peco long track pins.

They have nice small heads that disappear against the rail.

I know they are expensive, but... I have a lifetime supply already!

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Posted by RR_Mel on Friday, June 11, 2021 9:30 PM

The ballast is level with the top of the ties and the nail head is on the ties.


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Posted by caldreamer on Friday, June 11, 2021 9:19 PM

I would think that the nail heads would be covered by the ballast

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Posted by RR_Mel on Friday, June 11, 2021 8:13 PM

Me too.  I don’t paint my track nails, after I ballast the track the nails aren’t needed and I pull the little silver headed nails . . . . easier to see unpainted.


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Saving Money On Track Nails
Posted by caldreamer on Friday, June 11, 2021 8:00 PM

For the majority of model railroaders their track nails are purchased at their local hobby shop at an exorbident price.  At my LHS it is $6,95 for a package of Atlas track nails.  I have been using #18 3/4 inch wire brads which I purchase at my local Lowes' for $1.38.  The weight is exactly the same, so the number of brads matches those of the track nails.  The savings per package is $5.57.  The difference is that I use a  dark brown acrylic paint over the heads of the brads with a small brush since they are steel which is no big deal considering the savings.

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