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Posted by SandaValleyRR on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:27 AM

kasskaboose

Thanks for posting the layout schematic.  It appears that the loops are too difficult to reach.  Am I the only one who thinks that?  Speaking of, what is the radii of the loops?

 

Those are both 22". I was hoping to squueze 24" radius in there but don't think I can.

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Posted by SandaValleyRR on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:25 AM

Doughless

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Edit:  If you could tuck the upper curve that heads into the right side yard more towards the wall, you might have enough space to put the turntable there just above the tunnel portal, then the engine tracks back towards the yard, more parallel to the other tracks, for a more linear fit.  The yard tracks would be much longer and more useful. 

If they both fit, and I think they could, no reason you couldn't have two.

 

That sounds like a decent idea. Thanks!

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Posted by SandaValleyRR on Monday, April 26, 2021 9:57 PM

Doughless

Good point about access.  Forgot that detail. 

There are suppose to be access hatches in the loops.  OP preserved the space for the hatch/open area in the top loop, but covered it with the TT in the lower loop.

However, if the siding and spur was removed from the back side, there would be little need to access track along the wall.

This pic is all over the internet search 'net

 

 

 

 

 

This is the plan I started with. The loop on the left has access on 2 sides, the right side loop I'm hoping to maintain the access  cutout. The benchwork takes up a portion of a room as the other part of the room has a CNC machine, 3D printer and some other tools.
The room is actually like this:

http://sandavalleyrr.kawhite.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/room.jpg

 

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Posted by cowman on Monday, April 26, 2021 7:23 PM

Welcome!

Where are the exterior walls and aisles.  I ask because you will need to reach in to work on, retrieve, etc.  Normal reach is considered to be 30" and that depends on the height of the layout as well as the operators actual height and reach.  If you can get to both sides of a 4' surface, you should be alright.  Mock up something at the height you are palanning and see how far you can reach.  It also makes a difference what type of scenery you have, are you reaching over trees and buildings or is it a flat relatively tall scenery free space?

Good luck,

Richard

EDIT:  Doug posted while I was typing.

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Posted by Doughless on Monday, April 26, 2021 7:09 PM

Good point about access.  Forgot that detail. 

There are suppose to be access hatches in the loops.  OP preserved the space for the hatch/open area in the top loop, but covered it with the TT in the lower loop.

However, if the siding and spur was removed from the back side, there would be little need to access track along the wall.

This pic is all over the internet search 'net

 

 

 

 

- Douglas

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Posted by kasskaboose on Monday, April 26, 2021 6:56 PM

Thanks for posting the layout schematic.  It appears that the loops are too difficult to reach.  Am I the only one who thinks that?  Speaking of, what is the radii of the loops?

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Posted by Doughless on Monday, April 26, 2021 5:05 PM

Byron...stage name Cuyama here on the forum...did a real nice job with that plan.  Its one of my favorites as the 4 x 8 alternative.

I think scenicly, the little runaround and industry on the left might make things a bit crowded with the turntable.  If that wasn't there, I'd say the turntable fits more naturally in the loop.  It eats up a lot of real estate on the right.

But think about operations too, where turning the loco is more of a necessity.  That might help you decide on the proper location.

Would also like to hear Byron's thoughts.

Edit:  If you could tuck the upper curve that heads into the right side yard more towards the wall, you might have enough space to put the turntable there just above the tunnel portal, then the engine tracks back towards the yard, more parallel to the other tracks, for a more linear fit.  The yard tracks would be much longer and more useful. 

If they both fit, and I think they could, no reason you couldn't have two.

- Douglas

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, April 26, 2021 4:59 PM

Don't bother clicking on it, this is as big as it gets.

The bottom left loop is a reversing loop.  In the right loop I can't be sure what are crossings and what are turnouts.

Since there are no links to Popp's plan or Bryon's plan I have no comment on any modifications.  However Byron is on the forum and I expect he will be along shortly.

Henry

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Posted by SandaValleyRR on Monday, April 26, 2021 11:54 AM

Thank you for the welcome I am waiting for my new post to appear. 

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Posted by SandaValleyRR on Monday, April 26, 2021 11:53 AM

Proposed layout

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, April 26, 2021 11:45 AM

Welcome to the Model Railroader magazine discussion forums. We are glad you have found us.  Please stick around through the delays and become part of the crowd.

I cannot see your image. There is a sticky on page one with information to post a picture.

Hope to see more of you.

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Posted by York1 on Monday, April 26, 2021 9:57 AM

Welcome to the Forum, SandaValley!  Welcome

 Your first posts are moderated and may not appear for a while, but that will clear up after you post a few more times.

If you want to post any images, the images must be on a separate host, like flicker or imgur.  Once you have a free account at a photo host, you can then link the photo to this site using the "Insert/edit image" link on the menu.

I hope you can post more as you work on your layout!

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, April 26, 2021 9:51 AM

Can't see it.

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Would love some comments
Posted by SandaValleyRR on Saturday, April 24, 2021 6:43 AM

I foound this track plan  originally by D. Popp(Feb. 2011) and modified by Byron Henderson(layoutvision.com).
I made some further modifications to match what I wanted.
Please Note I would use only one of the turntables, I'm just showing the two possible locations. The top is 8 ft wide and the left leg is 10 ft long  and 4ft wide at the bottom and the right leg is 13 ft. long and 20 inches wide.

 

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