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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:16 AM

Here's an update on the steel mill trackplan. I found out that the blast furnace has two elevated tracks, so I added those.

And for the BOF, I will be using the rolling mill structure, becuase Walthers doesn't have any BOF's.

Added a scrap yard too.

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:10 PM

I have an update on the steel mill track plan. I found out that the blast furnace dump coal/ore track is actually elevated. So I created a new track there to be elevated by around 3".

Also I found out that I can actually use the rolling mill building as a BOF. Because there is no BOF Walthers structure.

Added an area for a scrap yard.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 16, 2019 1:38 AM

Makin progress. Have about half of the benchwork done now.

Picked up this sweet looking SD70Ace #1943 Athearn Genesis.

Been working on some structers. These will be for the power plant.

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Posted by Tom Bryant_MR on Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:32 PM

Welcome back Michael!  It is always good to see someone returning to the hobby after being away and the excitement of having another layout - just as good as the first layout Smile

And, as always, a lot of good help for the others on the forum.

Best modeling and keep the updates coming.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:55 AM

davidmurray

 

 
Motley
Becuase what is better than an ice cold beer after working in a blast furnace all day!

 

The problem is that most employers do not permit alcohol on the premises.  Meaning no beer at work, and the police don't like beer consumption in cars.

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It's thirsty work after all.

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:53 PM

Ok I added some more tracks for coal hoppers, and a runaround track. 

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:09 PM

davidmurray

 

Motley
Becuase what is better than an ice cold beer after working in a blast furnace all day!

 The problem is that most employers do not permit alcohol on the premises.  Meaning no beer at work, and the police don't like beer consumption in cars.

Dave

 

 

 
Its a model railroad not real life, but I think the steel workers (if anybody) deserves an exception to no beer policies. Of course its only allowed after their work shift. Also have you seen the movie "Wolf on Wallstreet". Maye this is during the wild 80s. haha

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Posted by davidmurray on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:01 PM

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Becuase what is better than an ice cold beer after working in a blast furnace all day!

The problem is that most employers do not permit alcohol on the premises.  Meaning no beer at work, and the police don't like beer consumption in cars.

Dave

 

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:53 PM

Yes I agree, its going to take a lot of time and money. But my goal is finish benchwork (main layout) within 2 weeks. And get at least the two mainlines track down so I could run some trains as soon as possible another 2 weeks for that.

For operating the two. I will try to minimize runs going from one room to another, like one per session.

Also I just thought of this idea during lunch. Both Coors and the Power Plant have ongoing contruction projects and they need lots of steel deliveries. And Coors can send beer to the steel mill. Becuase what is better than an ice cold beer after working in a blast furnace all day!

 

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Posted by snjroy on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:37 PM

I think it's a great idea to think about what the expansion will look like when designing a layout. That way, you can plan and build your connecting tracks on your first layout, without starting the second layout right away... I don't know if you have a lot of time (and money) in your hands, but that first layout will take a lot of time and resources to build. So why not start with the first layout, and do the second layout later? There are many unfinished layouts (and frustrated modelers) out there...

About the second layout, I agree that you should aim for both an independent and linked operation between rooms. It doesn't have to be a loop in layout two, but you should plan for some sort of switching operations that doesn't require you to change rooms. Think of all the obstacles you have to go through to go from one room to another, including a duck-under... It won't be fun to operate a train going from one room to another if there are many hoops to go through. Unless you don't care much for operations, which is totally OK too.

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:42 PM

Some good points on too much attention to one layout. Therefore I will treat both of them as the new layout and build both at the same time.

As far as operating this, thinking about it more. I will probably run trains from main layout to steel mill. ie loading coal trains, ore from Colorado mines, then deliver them to the mill.

I will add a runaround track, thanks for that.

This will mainly be standup layout, but at times will sit and relax and enjoy that too. The reason why I lowered the track height from 42 to 40 is because of the long reaches in some spots.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:31 AM

With a track height of 40 inches, is this to be a sit down layout?

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:50 PM

I think this separate layout idea is great, and it will give you something different to model once you finish the other layout. My one concern would be when you start building the layouts, one may get more attention than the other and the other may never get worked on. What I’m saying is you may work on just one layout, at least until it is operational, and then start on the next layout.

Regarding the track plan you’ve drawn up, the only big issue I see is a lack of a run around. Since you have both facing and trailing point switches you’ll need a runaround to deliver cars to all the industries. Also you will need to figure out what to do about staging cars, if you will run trains onto the steal layout directly from the main layout then that’s not a huge issue, but if you want this to be an independent layout you’ll need to have an interchange track capable of holding all the cars from the various industries on the layout.

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:08 PM

Ok this is what I came up with for a possilbe Steel Mill in the next room.

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 4:40 PM

Ok listen to this guys. I was thinking today. Theres another bedroom next to this. Its in the lower right corner, where the closet is. I'm not really using that bedroom, just have some boxes in there right now.

That bedroom is 9x12. I could poke a hole in the wall and run a track through there. It would be totally seperated from this layout room I have here. And I was thinking that since Walthers is releasing the new Steel Mill series, I could build a steel mill in that second bedroom.

My old layout I actually had plans to build a steel mill but never did. Did all kinds of research, I already have modeling steel mills guide.

So it would be like having two seperate layouts operational wise. But at least the possiblity for expansion is there.

 

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Posted by Motley on Saturday, September 7, 2019 4:59 PM

Yet another update on the trackplan. I added a power plant so that I can have a destination for the coal. 

Moved the coal mine to the right. Oil Refinery is now in lower left. Frac Sand facilty is now in top left corner.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, September 6, 2019 11:32 AM

 The Denver Union Station ones now do, but the ones in the post above which I presume are the benchwork you built with the stack of supplies still do not. That's two different browsers on two different networks now.

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Posted by Motley on Friday, September 6, 2019 9:10 AM

rrinker

 None of your newest pics seem to be showing up. The old ones are still there. Too much bandwidth use? 

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Stupid Google photo's keep giving me issues. I stopped sharing them, and shared again. Can you see them now.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, September 6, 2019 7:23 AM

 None of your newest pics seem to be showing up. The old ones are still there. Too much bandwidth use? 

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Posted by Motley on Friday, September 6, 2019 1:59 AM

A change in plans. I decided I want to model Denver Union Station, instead of Cheyenne Depot. Since all of the other areas are in Colorado I might as well stick to that.

I pushed some of the yard tracks closer, and now the curve radius in the lower right will be around 33" or 34". I'll know when I start laying track.

The problem now is... how in the heck do I model the new Denver platform? I might have to ask CMR to see if they can custom build this platform.

I found this faller station platform, this might get close to the open style platforms. https://www.euromodeltrains.com/products/Faller/120193

Or maybe I can kitbash this faller train shed, and cut open the center?

https://www.euromodeltrains.com/products/Faller/120199

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Posted by Motley on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:30 PM

Well I made that pile of wood look like this. I got one 8 ft section completed. 4 more sections to go. Just kinda taking my time and make sure I do it right. Also this is a lot of hardwork and my arms feel like rubber. LOL

This is the top/right end where the mountain scene will be.

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Saturday, August 31, 2019 6:15 PM

Motley

Look what just showed up at my house! I had to have Home Depot deliver it because I don't have a truck.

This is close to $450 worth of stuff sitting here. The foamboard is 1.5".

I ended up taking down the section of benchwork I already had, because I am changing the height and width of the benchwork.

I have everything I need now. I have Mon, Tue, and Wed off next week, so plenty of time to work on the benchwork!

 

Yes Nice! Make sure to update us on progress!

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Posted by Motley on Saturday, August 31, 2019 6:07 PM

Look what just showed up at my house! I had to have Home Depot deliver it because I don't have a truck.

This is close to $450 worth of stuff sitting here. The foamboard is 1.5".

I ended up taking down the section of benchwork I already had, because I am changing the height and width of the benchwork.

I have everything I need now. I have Mon, Tue, and Wed off next week, so plenty of time to work on the benchwork!

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Posted by Motley on Saturday, August 31, 2019 5:59 PM

rrinker

 Thought that looked familiar. When I went through Rocky Mountain National Forest, I went in on the Estes Park side, and then came down 40 through Winter Park and Empire to get back.

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Nice! Very beautiful area there, I was just in Estes Park like 2 weeks ago. The coal mining industry up there is booming now. I just hope they never do the blasting mountain top mining (which is horrible) like they do in the Apalacians.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:30 PM

 Thought that looked familiar. When I went through Rocky Mountain National Forest, I went in on the Estes Park side, and then came down 40 through Winter Park and Empire to get back.

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Posted by Motley on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:24 PM

 No sir, that is the Henderson Coal Mine in Empire, CO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henderson_molybdenum_mine

 

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Posted by jim81147 on Friday, August 30, 2019 8:46 PM

Motley

Your are right mobileman, I should keep Coors brewery.

Ok Coors is back, and I also made a track for a coal flood loader, and moved the coal mine to the right corner.

 

 

  Michael , isnt that coal loader on the Navajo reservation between Tuba city and Cayenta ?

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Posted by Doughless on Thursday, August 29, 2019 7:47 AM

Good luck Michael.  Please share your progress.

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 6:06 PM

Motley

Hell.. you guys all know a layout is never finished.

Yes, and that goes double for layouts that are never started.

You get credit for taking the plunge, and rest assured . . . you have a lot of support here.

Good luck.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 4:35 PM

 It's been 6 years for me. Got a dumpster and some help for the long weekend to tear out the old walls and stuff, so finally starting!

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