Was up late last nite and pretty much got the trestle complete. I'm still undecided on whether I will add sway braces. Also attempted to even pickup a nbw and needless to say my mobility skills and sight are nothing what they use to be. May attempt to cut the trestle into the existing roadbed today to at least have that part done and have the trestle removeable for scene work.
Lynn
Present Layout progress
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Cut out the roadbed for a trial fit and once the mainline was lined up and fit nicely I started on the bent pillars.
That's one fine looking trestle bridge.
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With the bent supports in place and bridge roughly in place I 'm going to see if I can tie the ends of the bench work into the scene. As you can see I also removed the bottom diagonal braces, looked too goofy for me. Will add sway braces when I get somemore wood.Bridge sitting in place I used card stock to give a rough in for the hill over the bent supports. white glue and staples. Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to add plaster cloth and build up a bit. And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
I used card stock to give a rough in for the hill over the bent supports. white glue and staples. Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to add plaster cloth and build up a bit. And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to add plaster cloth and build up a bit. And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
Is it me or is this the way a crazy person figures things out? Tempted to get some grocery bags stuffed with crumpled paper for support and stuff them under the paper and start putting down plaster cloth.
I did get started with joining up the areas using cardboard strips and hot glue ( ouch a few times) I'm only concerned with the trestle being supported well which it is and the rest is just for looks. I'm still not sure how I will do the outside perimeter of the benchwork but that will have to come eventually. I may have to do it the extra heavy duty way and build the ends of the trestle and lower base out to the existing benchwork, more wood but at least it would be even if I decide to use the hardboard.
Lynn:
The trestle looks really good!
This is the first time I have seen all the intricate steps involved in both building and installing a trestle. Very educating! Thanks.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Glad your seeing something new Dave. I wish I had seen somethng like this before I started, real learning curve but it is fun.
I got the waterfall area buttoned up pretty tight with a nice cardboard weave and started on some plaster cloth. I'll give the plaster cloth a skim of plaster when the entire area is complete.
Its been a fairly productive couple days.
This is what I came up with for boxing in the scene. After adding a bit more cardboard strips it was time to get at the plaster cloth somemore. Can;t go wrong with this stuff I thought I'd try some plaster cloth on the corners just to smooth the edges , came out sort of ok Testing the water fall which I had misplaced and it showed back up Test fitting the trestle. Shows level although bents base to risers clearance is something I will have to figure out. Next step will be applying a skim of tuf coat to the hill area to give strength before applying rock molds.
After adding a bit more cardboard strips it was time to get at the plaster cloth somemore. Can;t go wrong with this stuff I thought I'd try some plaster cloth on the corners just to smooth the edges , came out sort of ok Testing the water fall which I had misplaced and it showed back up Test fitting the trestle. Shows level although bents base to risers clearance is something I will have to figure out. Next step will be applying a skim of tuf coat to the hill area to give strength before applying rock molds.
After adding a bit more cardboard strips it was time to get at the plaster cloth somemore.
Can;t go wrong with this stuff I thought I'd try some plaster cloth on the corners just to smooth the edges , came out sort of ok Testing the water fall which I had misplaced and it showed back up Test fitting the trestle. Shows level although bents base to risers clearance is something I will have to figure out. Next step will be applying a skim of tuf coat to the hill area to give strength before applying rock molds.
Can;t go wrong with this stuff
I thought I'd try some plaster cloth on the corners just to smooth the edges , came out sort of ok
Testing the water fall which I had misplaced and it showed back up Test fitting the trestle. Shows level although bents base to risers clearance is something I will have to figure out. Next step will be applying a skim of tuf coat to the hill area to give strength before applying rock molds.
Testing the water fall which I had misplaced and it showed back up
Test fitting the trestle. Shows level although bents base to risers clearance is something I will have to figure out. Next step will be applying a skim of tuf coat to the hill area to give strength before applying rock molds.
Test fitting the trestle. Shows level although bents base to risers clearance is something I will have to figure out.
Next step will be applying a skim of tuf coat to the hill area to give strength before applying rock molds.
Spent the last couple days moving forward on the trestle area. I still have a very long way to go. I layed down some ground goop for the trestle to get it seated right and saran wrapped the bent leg footings, I sit it in place and built up where it showed a space and once it sit nice and rail was level inward I left it in place overnite then removed and replace then shook some ws dirt and ground foam on it then a shake of sifted dirt.The rock castings will have to wait a few days before getting painted as there still holding water. New hills added to break the flatness. Another mound and dirt road started Bridge in place for the photo
New hills added to break the flatness. Another mound and dirt road started Bridge in place for the photo
Another mound and dirt road started Bridge in place for the photo
Bridge in place for the photo
Wow! Lynn, how far along on this trestle were you when you started adking questions about how to build it? You seem to be a very fast builder! I think I took at least a month to build my trestle which was much smaller than yours. Great Job! Are those plaster rock castings, or something else?
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NP2626 Wow! Lynn, how far along on this trestle were you when you started adking questions about how to build it? You seem to be a very fast builder! I think I took at least a month to build my trestlen which was much smaller than yours. Great Job! Are those plaster rock castings, or something else?
Wow! Lynn, how far along on this trestle were you when you started adking questions about how to build it? You seem to be a very fast builder! I think I took at least a month to build my trestlen which was much smaller than yours. Great Job! Are those plaster rock castings, or something else?
Thanks Mark it only took me a couple weeks from start to finish . All castings are fresh plaster cast.
I mixed up a fresh batch of my ground goop and I'm attempting to get into the mood of scenicing up the trestle area. No ground goop in the next 2 shots but more a trial run with building up in layers. I also added some color to the rock work.
No ground goop in the next 2 shots but more a trial run with building up in layers. I also added some color to the rock work.
Got a bit of time in on scenery. I reached as far as I could and will have to work from the other end.Looks like I need to spend some time making somemore ground foam and blended debri.
Puttering along with the scenery. I was hoping to pour the water but its just not practical having to get the next area joined in first.
I also added retaining walls to the river banks under the trestle. This will be the next area to be joined up
This will be the next area to be joined up
Great work, wish I had your creative talent.
HO60s Great work, wish I had your creative talent.
Thanks for the compliment.
I finally got around to filling in the area a bit, there will be a road going up the hill and over a bridge. Not sure what I'm doing with the lower area, its a bit too flat for my liking.
The trestle area scenery is outstanding!
hon30critter Lynn: The trestle area scenery is outstanding! Dave
Thanks Dave
I wasn't happy with the terrain so got to work building up the area. Didn't take much to build up the hill.And overall viewA few buildings looking for a homeStill wasn't happy with most rear, so a few additional mounds to the most rear area.A shot up the river to give an idea of elevation of built up are.
Did a bit more work into the corner to get the area filled in. I tried useing some new to me stuff which is called tuf coat for mold making and not really liking it as it doesn't seem to take the ws colors like the pop does. Just need to do the raods a bit more and come back with bushes and trees. I'll have to go back in a few days and try to color up the rocks a bit more. I also attempted to attach the industry spur to the turnout and found the turnout rail was way out of guage, damn loose rail, so changed out the turnout to another and all good except I need to redo the throw wire for the tortoise.
One of the two layout rooms is pretty much done. Just need to workout how to trim the tops down for the terrain.Sure makes a major impact on the layout and will make it much simpler to fill in from the edge of layout inward.
A bit more done. I find you really have to figure things out with putting this stuff up, have to make sure there are no seams where there is any stress.I will need to add on to the bench work in the near future so I can finish off to the wall. This will be the turntable area.
Thats lookin really good Wickman,Looks like you have a pretty cool collection of buildings too. I'm also liking the way you have stayed motivated and are proceeding on this big project in a timely manner. As for myself I keep getting distracted by other modeling projects suac as ships for the past year. Bill in Idaho
reklein Thats lookin really good Wickman,Looks like you have a pretty cool collection of buildings too. I'm also liking the way you have stayed motivated and are proceeding on this big project in a timely manner. As for myself I keep getting distracted by other modeling projects suac as ships for the past year. Bill in Idaho
Thanks Bill. If it were spring/summer my wife and I both ride old Harley's and we would be out on the road and not playing in the layout room so on my days off I plow forward. I also have an old 63 Vespa in the shop I've been restoring thats calling for attention.
Last section installed until I do the last section of benchwork.Now to decide on terrain height and trim down the fascia where its needed. Time to do a cleanup and reorganize for doing some jig saw cutting.
Did some work to get the space between the sofit and rail filled in and found that the plaster cloth itself gave a pretty good foundation to start to build up the terrain. Been on holidays in nice warm Cuba so here's a bit of an update now with the process to getting to the plaster cloth base.