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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, April 11, 2021 4:10 PM

Compound grade helix anyone?

There is still a lot to be done yet. Trim the uprights to length, wire the track, and I'm goint to install an IR "where's my train" tracking system into it. Legs will be added when it is put into place on the layout.

Multi-part helix build starts here http://www.lkorailroad.com/south-helix-part-i/

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, December 26, 2020 4:55 PM

Hi Alan,

I love how neatly organized the underside of your layout is! The bus wire arrangements are outstanding.

All your work is very professional! You have given me some great ideas.

Thanks,

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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Posted by PennsyLou on Saturday, December 26, 2020 4:02 PM
Wow - way cool, thanks!
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Posted by lifeontheranch on Thursday, December 24, 2020 12:06 PM

To get a full understanding of the construction method it is simplest to read my blog. It has all the gory how and why details.

LKO blog

Otherwise, think of it as cookie-cutter subroadbed that lifts off of the benchwork. Benchwork is permanently mounted (relatively) to the wall. Cookie-cutter has glued on risers that sit on benchwork crossmembers. A flange secures riser to crossmember and insures proper alignment. Remove screws, lift off.

Module lengths are dictated by the track plan. Module joints are under clear track and arranged as a lap joint.

Each track module is completely self-contained electrically and mechanically. As if each track module is its own standalone shelf layout.

The only external electrical connections are to the power buses (barrier strips) and fascia control panels (JST connectors) both of which are easily disconnected.

The cookie-cutter is the layout. It just happens to sit on benchwork.

Hope that helps.

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Posted by PennsyLou on Thursday, December 24, 2020 8:51 AM

Alan, can you expand perhaps a little on the "self contained track module" concept?  How big are the modules?  How are the modules held in place while still facilitating removal for work, and to ensure perfect re-allignment when the modules are put back in place?  I assume some sort of plug connectors are used for the electrical and DCC buses?  This looks like a great idea to avoid having to work under the layout.  

Thanks!

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Thursday, December 24, 2020 8:18 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys.

Gravity holds my Tortoises in place while screws are inserted.Geeked The track modules are self-contained and removable so all work is done while they lay upside down on the workbench. So much better than crawling under a layout.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:06 PM

Alan your work is top notch. When I was mounting tortoise switch machines before I would use stick on Velcro to hold it in place to put screws, just tonight after realizing reusing the tortoise switches and cutting the wire that Velcro wasn't going to work, 3m tape works great. 

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Posted by PennsyLou on Monday, December 21, 2020 8:19 AM

Really great, meticulous work!  I will soon be tearing down the old railroad for a move and rebuild in a new home, I will study at your progress as an example to strive for!   

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:51 PM

Added brakes on the hill. Now I can setout cars without them rolling away.

Details: http://www.lkorailroad.com/brakes-on-the-hill/

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:27 AM

hon30critter

 

 
lifeontheranch
We have working fascia panels!

 

Hi Alan,

Glad to see that you have resumed posting.

I have just re-read all of your posts on how you made the control panels. I have to make four panels for my new layout. Your very detailed posts have provided me with a wealth of information on how to make my panels look as professional as yours do.

Thanks,

Dave

 

Glad to have helped.

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:26 AM

carl425
carl425 wrote the following post 10 hours ago: Those panels remind me of these:

Oops sorry, forgot the add quote button.

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:25 AM

You nailed it!!! Exactly where my inspiration came from.

One of my other interests is 80's stereo equipment. I was never wealthy enough to own McIntosh equipment but I do have a full Nikko rack. 880 watts of pure ultra low distorion joy.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, July 26, 2020 3:30 AM

lifeontheranch
We have working fascia panels!

Hi Alan,

Glad to see that you have resumed posting.

I have just re-read all of your posts on how you made the control panels. I have to make four panels for my new layout. Your very detailed posts have provided me with a wealth of information on how to make my panels look as professional as yours do.

Thanks,

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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Posted by carl425 on Saturday, July 25, 2020 10:21 PM

Those panels remind me of these:

I have the right to remain silent.  By posting here I have given up that right and accept that anything I say can and will be used as evidence to critique me.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:45 PM

Nice looking panels!

Henry

COB Potomac & Northern

Shenandoah Valley

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:41 PM

We have working fascia panels! Well, a couple of them so far.

Build detail at http://www.lkorailroad.com/panel-wiring-part-i/

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:05 PM

Good to see progress again Alan.  Keep us posted.

Mike

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:06 PM

It has been a very long time since I posted progress on my layout. Life gets in the way sometimes. But finally I am back in the train room. Fascia finished and panels mounted. Panel connector wiring next task.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/fascia-finished/

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Posted by Yannis on Friday, June 16, 2017 1:11 AM

Top quality work Alan! Thanks for posting!

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:45 PM

Impressive!

Dave

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 PM

Panels finished. Next up is getting them fascia mounted and wired to the track modules.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-xi/

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:41 AM

OK, thanks Alan.

Mike

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:24 AM

You clicked on a "category". The page is a list of all posts that are tagged Basement Preparation. Click on any of the titles listed to see the full post.

Alternately, in the right pane below Categories is a list of all individual posts. They are listed in reverse chronological order.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:11 AM

Excellent work, Alan.  I've visited your web site in the past, but just now I looked again, and clicked on "Basement Preperation", and the page was empty, except for some text.  Same with any of the pages I clicked on.

Do I need to be a subscriber in order to see the content?

Mike.

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, April 24, 2017 6:34 PM

Making progress. 9 of 16 finished.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-x/

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, March 27, 2017 10:18 PM

lifeontheranch
I made the circuit boards. Described midway in this post: http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-vii/

Excellent work, and a lot of it!

Thanks,

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, March 27, 2017 4:21 PM

rrinker

 ... the reversed biased LED would see no more than the forward voltage of the forward biased one, so like 2.5 volts...

 

Except if one LED fails. Plus, I had to put in a jumper on the board anyway. The diode is a jumper with an added feature. 1N4148 cost less than 1/2 cent each.

rrinker

... in series with the Tortoise motor ...

 

Some turnouts can be controlled from multiple panels. The number of LEDs for any given turnout varies. Resistor values would need calculated on a case-by-case basis to maintain uniform brightness between one, two, or more indicators. Changing out resistors would be required if a panel change occurred or another panel added. My panel wiring arrangement maintains uniform LED brightness regardless of how many panels an individual turnout may appear on.

rrinker

...plus the light changes before the Tortoise even moves. Series witht he motor, the light would change immediately to the new indication, but dimly, until the Tortoise completed movement.

 

Yes, the panel indicators change immediately. Although I don't understand the importance of movement and indication timing. There are illuminated switch stands that indicate direction and completed throw. They are series wired with the Tortoise motor since there is only one switch stand per turnout.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, March 27, 2017 3:49 PM

 Two individual LEDs back to back is the same as the bicolor LED, the reversed biased LED would see no more than the forward voltage of the forward biased one, so like 2.5 volts. They could still have individual resistors to equalize the brightness.

 Frankly I'd just put them in series with the Tortoise motor unless using the Tortoise contacts to control them, that way there is a positive indication that the Tortoise has moved. Paralleling the Tortoise means added current through the flip-flop, plus the light changes before the Tortoise even moves. Series witht he motor, the light would change immediately to the new indication, but dimly, until the Tortoise completed movement.

                      --Randy

 


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, March 27, 2017 11:22 AM

Changed the thread title since the content has veered far from the original.

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