Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
Originally posted by CP5415 Why not use actual pebbles. It will be tedious work but I bet the results will be amazing. Not sure what to use to glue the pebbles together, probably an epoxy of some sort. Thanks for the idea though. I have a source for extremely small pebbles along the shoreline of Lake Huron. Gordon [/quote use pva diulted works well ] Reply Edit dknelson Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Milwaukee WI (Fox Point) 11,439 posts Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:11 AM I have used the Chooch products and think they are very good, but if you have to cut them to size they release a rather sharp odor. And the ends and top are not detailed alas The old trick was use to balsa wood (yes, I said balso wood) and shape the stone using a wood burning tool which seals the grain. It takes some practice but balsa is cheap enough that you should learn pretty quickly. If you have no wood burning pen a small soldering iron might work as well but BE CAREFUL and have a damp rag handy just in case. Dave Nelson Reply timthechef Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Brunswick MD 345 posts Posted by timthechef on Monday, January 12, 2004 8:25 PM I had a brainsrtorm the other day and I baught some modeling clay and sculpted my own modular stone wall system and from this I have made a latex mold and now I' m casting the pieces that I need. this is my first experience at molding anything but so far it's working pretty well.[:D] Life's too short to eat bad cake Reply timthechef Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Brunswick MD 345 posts Posted by timthechef on Monday, January 5, 2004 2:52 PM Thankyou for all the suggestions, they all sound great. I'm going to try a few and see how they work. Thanks for the help. Life's too short to eat bad cake Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 4, 2004 7:24 PM Are you looking for stone wall with uniform seams like brickwork or a stone wall with fieldstone look? I have had some success using styrofoam board, not the beaded stuff. Just cut it to size and mark the seams on with a burnishing tool or even a screwdriver. Cover it with a light mix of polyfil or sculptamold (tinted to your taste). I use whie glue and it works ok to hold. Real stones are a little heavy in any quantity. Reply Edit cacole Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona 13,757 posts Posted by cacole on Sunday, January 4, 2004 4:39 PM A trick I used several years ago to construct a stone retaining wall approximately 8 feet long and ranging from zero up to 5 inches high, on a curve leading up to a bridge, was as follows: Stir up a batch of 20-minute casting plaster with a small amount of grey latex paint mixed in. The latex paint tones down the color and makes the plaster set faster. Coat the entire retaining wall, or a section thereof, with plaster approximately 1/4" thick. Hold a piece of masonite or thin plywood upright near the wall while the plaster is still soft, and pour a bucket full of pea gravel of mixed colors, mostly brown, between the wall and board. Press the board against the wall to pu***he gravel into the plaster. Hold until the plaster sets enough to keep the rocks in place. Remove the board, clean up the loose gravel, and let the plaster set for at least two days to thoroughly set and dry. If necessary, push more gravel into any blank spots before the plaster sets. Spray the wall with clear gloss or dull acrylic, depending on the desired effect, to seal the rocks in place. Reply Pennsy58 Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Conemaugh Division 389 posts Posted by Pennsy58 on Sunday, January 4, 2004 4:02 PM I found a guy on ebay selling stone wall in interlocking sections that I purchased. They suited my needs for retaining walls that had a Pennsy look to them. Cut stone that is. Not sure if it is permissable to list his add here though. Type in rock wall in the ebay search feature and see if it is what you are looking for. Reply CBQ_Guy Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: North Central Illinois 1,458 posts Posted by CBQ_Guy on Sunday, January 4, 2004 3:38 PM Dave Frary has a couple rubber molds for stone walls at his website at: http://www.mrscenery.com/ I see he now has a downloadable catalog for rock wall molds, etc. As far as gluing up individual rocks to make your own rock walls. MR had the BN, N-scale project layout a few years back where they glued small rocks along a waterfront area by the power plant. IIRC, they just used white glue. Chooch has some nice looking rock retaining walls. The Scenic Express catalog has pages and pages of rock wall castings and one brand comes fairly long and are made to inter lock with each other for added lengths. They have a site and (it used to be, but may not be anymore?) catalog available at: http://www.scenicexpress.com/ Finally, you can go outside and root around for appropriate sized pebbles if you want, but if it were me I would just go to a pet store/department and check out plain, uncolored aquarium gravel. Hope this is of help to you. "Paul [Kossart] - The CB&Q Guy" [In Illinois] ~ Modeling the CB&Q and its fictional 'Illiniwek River-Subdivision-Branch Line' in the 1960's. ~ Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 4, 2004 8:36 AM I just make a flat bit in the plaster scenery when putting the plaster on. When it is dry i go back with a spike or scribe (a kind of metal pencil for marking on metal) and cut in the mortar joints with that. It is easy and fairly quick and it is not too uniform. ot can then be coloured with washes just like the rest of the scenery and rock castings so the result blends into the scene well. just my thoughts. neil Reply Edit dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, January 4, 2004 4:59 AM You can also draw the stone pattern on drywall gypsum board, carve in the motar lines and then pull off the paper facing to make a stone wall. I have made retaining walls, arch bridges, tunnel portals and bridge abutments that way. I like to paint the wall board with a base color of latex paint to "seal' the drywall and them put washes of color over that to enhance the stones. Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply RhB_HJ Member sinceDecember 2003 From: Coldstream, BC Canada 969 posts Posted by RhB_HJ on Saturday, January 3, 2004 8:38 PM Tim, Using the white styrofoam (also called bead foam) works very well. Use a hot awl to engrave the stone work (heating the awl over a candle), coat with thinned drywall compound, let dry then colour with acrylic washes. Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com Reply CP5415 Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Whitby, ON 2,594 posts Posted by CP5415 on Saturday, January 3, 2004 7:23 PM Why not use actual pebbles. It will be tedious work but I bet the results will be amazing. Not sure what to use to glue the pebbles together, probably an epoxy of some sort. Thanks for the idea though. I have a source for extremely small pebbles along the shoreline of Lake Huron. Gordon Brought to you by the letters C.P.R. as well as D&H! K1a - all the way Reply timthechef Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Brunswick MD 345 posts Making stone walls Posted by timthechef on Saturday, January 3, 2004 6:07 PM I building a HO layout set in a fictional town in western Maryland in the 1920's and I would like to have stone retaining walls of verious sizes and shapes many that go around corners. Can anyone tell me the best ways of making them? This is my first layout but I'm up to any challenge and am not afraid to try advanced techniques. (this is starting to sound a little risque) I have read where some people make their own molds and cast them in place, but I'm not sure how to do this. Has anyone got any thoughts? Thanks for the help. Life's too short to eat bad cake Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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