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thank you for the post ok so now to the questions you asked me I am going to model in present day mabey as far back to the 80's but not much further back in time.  next I want both continuous and switching so I was thinking about a freight yard if I got room and I do like industry as well mostly agriculture and coal is what I was thinking.  I was also thinking about a farming scene.  and mabey if I can fit it in I would like to have a small town to take my goods to.  I want to run DCC,  now on that note I have a question If I have a DCC setup and have non dcc locos will they still work with that power pack?  I will be running diesel loco's.thanks againMike[quote user="tstage"] Mike, First off, [#welcome] to the forum!  Good to have you aboard! [:)]Secondly, Yes, you can do quite a bit with a 4 x 8'.  I'm also new to the hobby myself (<3 years) and started my first HO layout as a standard 4 x 8'.  For me, this is a learning layout - with the hopes of either adding onto, or completely revising as an around-the-wall layout. Mike, just a few questions for you to mull over and contemplate: <ol><li>What road(s) and era do you want to model?  I'm modeling the New York Central in the early 40s. </li><li>Do you want continuous action?  Switching?  Or, both?  I have both on my layout. </li><li>Do you have any industries that interest you, or that you would like to include on your layout?  (Ex. grain, mining, logging, etc.)  My layout includes a freight stop and small steam/diesel fueling facility. </li><li>Do you want to run your trains using DC (analog) or DCC (Digital Command Control)?  Simply put, with DC you control your track, which controls your trains.  With DCC, you control each locomotive individually - no matter what the other trains on the same track are doing. </li></ol>Mike, I would encourage you to NOT try and cram as much as you can in the space that you have.  Build your bench work and get even a simple track plan up and going - even if you don't use that plan ultimately.  If you'd like to see my track plan and pictures of my layout, click on the link at the bottom of this post.  It's still a work in progress. Tom [/quote]
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