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hello again, one thing I forgot. <br /> <br />Dont forget to model what's under the trees as well- ie deadwood, shrubs, bushes, long grass, weeds, etc. it all adds to the effect. And dont throw away your first attempts- they can always be placed at the back, or in the middle of a thicket, behind your better attempts. Remember you can't always see the wood for the trees. <br /> <br />Jon
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