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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:17 AM
Has Model Railroader written any articles about modeling the CNR & CPR lines in and around kamloops/jasper/banff?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:17 AM
Has Model Railroader written any articles about modeling the CNR & CPR lines in and around kamloops/jasper/banff?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:29 PM
There's been a few profiles of layouts set around there, and the occasional article. Your best bet is Canadian Railway Modeller for area-specific stuff, since MR tends to naturally focus on US roads. A lot of BN info (And predecessor roads) would be useful to you though, as the former BN portions of BNSF include some of southern BC (BNSF is one of the suitors for BCRail too). IIRC there was a CPR layout set in southern BC in one of the last 2 Great Model Railroads or MR Planning (Can't recall which off hand)

Unfortunately, just about every Canadian Article in every magazine of late has been Ontario-centric, with the NMRA convention being in Toronto.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:29 PM
There's been a few profiles of layouts set around there, and the occasional article. Your best bet is Canadian Railway Modeller for area-specific stuff, since MR tends to naturally focus on US roads. A lot of BN info (And predecessor roads) would be useful to you though, as the former BN portions of BNSF include some of southern BC (BNSF is one of the suitors for BCRail too). IIRC there was a CPR layout set in southern BC in one of the last 2 Great Model Railroads or MR Planning (Can't recall which off hand)

Unfortunately, just about every Canadian Article in every magazine of late has been Ontario-centric, with the NMRA convention being in Toronto.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:49 PM
Another area that is very, very, very, very popular is the Fraser/Thompson Canyon areas. The Cisco Bridges are very famous (except in Canada) around the world as an excellent rail fanning location. The two most dramatic areas in BC and Alberta - rail road wise - are the Rockies and Fraser/Thompson canyons. In fact, you could have an argument as to which ones are best.

If you want to model Jasper (where I spend many years living there) and Kamloops, then you are modelling CN, Via - Canadian, Rocky Mountaineer, and American Orient Express. If you are modelling Banff, then CP and Rocky Mountaineer.

If you model the Fraser/Thompson canyon (you're going to love this) then you are modelling all of the above. The Canyons used to house CP track on one side and CN track on the other. In a rare moment of intelligence from the upper echelons of executive decision making in CP and CN, an agreement was reached to have directional running. So heading east from Vancouver, both CP and CN run on CP track, and heading West through the canyon, both run on CN track.

Oh, and don't forget the CP business train - it goes through the canyon a couple of times of year. It is CP F7 units in the old maroon and grey colour scheme, with maroon old passenger coaches - ya gotta love it.

And if modelling the canyons, don't forget the rail lube guy who looks like Yule Brenner, with big overalls, big red suspenders and no shirt, driving around on a large high railer, lubing all the rail lube points. And if modelling the Cisco Bridges in the late spring, early summer, don't forget to have natives net fishing by the bridges for salmon.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:49 PM
Another area that is very, very, very, very popular is the Fraser/Thompson Canyon areas. The Cisco Bridges are very famous (except in Canada) around the world as an excellent rail fanning location. The two most dramatic areas in BC and Alberta - rail road wise - are the Rockies and Fraser/Thompson canyons. In fact, you could have an argument as to which ones are best.

If you want to model Jasper (where I spend many years living there) and Kamloops, then you are modelling CN, Via - Canadian, Rocky Mountaineer, and American Orient Express. If you are modelling Banff, then CP and Rocky Mountaineer.

If you model the Fraser/Thompson canyon (you're going to love this) then you are modelling all of the above. The Canyons used to house CP track on one side and CN track on the other. In a rare moment of intelligence from the upper echelons of executive decision making in CP and CN, an agreement was reached to have directional running. So heading east from Vancouver, both CP and CN run on CP track, and heading West through the canyon, both run on CN track.

Oh, and don't forget the CP business train - it goes through the canyon a couple of times of year. It is CP F7 units in the old maroon and grey colour scheme, with maroon old passenger coaches - ya gotta love it.

And if modelling the canyons, don't forget the rail lube guy who looks like Yule Brenner, with big overalls, big red suspenders and no shirt, driving around on a large high railer, lubing all the rail lube points. And if modelling the Cisco Bridges in the late spring, early summer, don't forget to have natives net fishing by the bridges for salmon.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:46 PM
NScale Railroading did an article in Jan/Feb '03 on a "Canadian National Sassamatt Subdivision" layout, if that helps.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:46 PM
NScale Railroading did an article in Jan/Feb '03 on a "Canadian National Sassamatt Subdivision" layout, if that helps.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:32 PM
I know John Walther's of the Sassamatt Division quite well. Until recently, he managed the LHS Pacific Scale Rail in the Greater Vancouver area (New Westminster). His layout is in North Vancouver in a garage. Unfortunately, though I've been invited to see it several times, I've never made it.

If you're Canadian, you'll like N Scale Railroading as it has an "above average" Canadian content. The mag is published just down the road from Vancouver, BC and Kirk Reddie spends a whack of time up here. Because modelling is so active here he has a lot to choose from and he isn't reluctant to add a great deal of Canadian content to the mag. I think in the third or fourth edition, Brian Morgan did an excellent article on BC Rail box cars. Then Brian Morgan did another article on his steam workshop, if I recall correctly.

Even Hundman is involved with the Vancouver scene and articles drift into his mag from here. His mag location is in Mukliteo Washington (funny little town that really is a suburb of Boeing), not too far from Kirk's location. So it is about a three hour drive from North Seattle to Vancouver, BC.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:32 PM
I know John Walther's of the Sassamatt Division quite well. Until recently, he managed the LHS Pacific Scale Rail in the Greater Vancouver area (New Westminster). His layout is in North Vancouver in a garage. Unfortunately, though I've been invited to see it several times, I've never made it.

If you're Canadian, you'll like N Scale Railroading as it has an "above average" Canadian content. The mag is published just down the road from Vancouver, BC and Kirk Reddie spends a whack of time up here. Because modelling is so active here he has a lot to choose from and he isn't reluctant to add a great deal of Canadian content to the mag. I think in the third or fourth edition, Brian Morgan did an excellent article on BC Rail box cars. Then Brian Morgan did another article on his steam workshop, if I recall correctly.

Even Hundman is involved with the Vancouver scene and articles drift into his mag from here. His mag location is in Mukliteo Washington (funny little town that really is a suburb of Boeing), not too far from Kirk's location. So it is about a three hour drive from North Seattle to Vancouver, BC.
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Posted by BR60103 on Friday, July 11, 2003 9:39 PM
If you need prototype pictures, look for BRMNA's books "Canadian Pacific in the Rockies" (books 1-10). I think they also have "Canaddian National in the Rockies". Nice big pictures -- earlier books use official CPR photos.
Also large book "Nicolas Morant's Canadian Pacific" by/about CP's official photographer.

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Posted by BR60103 on Friday, July 11, 2003 9:39 PM
If you need prototype pictures, look for BRMNA's books "Canadian Pacific in the Rockies" (books 1-10). I think they also have "Canaddian National in the Rockies". Nice big pictures -- earlier books use official CPR photos.
Also large book "Nicolas Morant's Canadian Pacific" by/about CP's official photographer.

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Posted by alpreston on Monday, July 14, 2003 10:10 PM
That CP train with the F-units in maroon and grey, is an excursion train, "The Royal Canadian Pacific", not a business train. CP also has another special train of older passenger cars in maroon with 4-6-4 #2816 to pull them, generally used on promotional tours (currently in the east on a safety promotion, I believe)
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Posted by alpreston on Monday, July 14, 2003 10:10 PM
That CP train with the F-units in maroon and grey, is an excursion train, "The Royal Canadian Pacific", not a business train. CP also has another special train of older passenger cars in maroon with 4-6-4 #2816 to pull them, generally used on promotional tours (currently in the east on a safety promotion, I believe)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:56 PM
If you're ever in the Calgary Alberta area you can stop in at the Canadian Pacific Pavilion in Downtown Calgary and take a close look at the Royal Canadian Pacific train (if it isn't out on an excursion). They also have an old steamer lined up and ready to go out on the rails every once in awhile.
A couple of years ago they built a special enclosure/station for the train and open it up for tours. Great place to see some Canadian Pacific history!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:56 PM
If you're ever in the Calgary Alberta area you can stop in at the Canadian Pacific Pavilion in Downtown Calgary and take a close look at the Royal Canadian Pacific train (if it isn't out on an excursion). They also have an old steamer lined up and ready to go out on the rails every once in awhile.
A couple of years ago they built a special enclosure/station for the train and open it up for tours. Great place to see some Canadian Pacific history!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:49 AM
Dec 92 Railroad Model Craftsman has a how to article on building CP's Lake Louise depot from scratch

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:49 AM
Dec 92 Railroad Model Craftsman has a how to article on building CP's Lake Louise depot from scratch

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