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No loco is running

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No loco is running
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 26, 2005 3:43 AM
Hello,

I did all what has been described above, baut no loco is running.

Does anyone knows a help?

Rainer
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Posted by challenger3802 on Monday, December 26, 2005 4:30 AM
More questions for you Rainer

Is the plug in?
Have all the wires been connected?
Are the wheels on the loco clean?
Is the track connected to the transformer / power leads?
Is the loco in a dead section?
Has the loco been tested out of circuit? (i.e. holding the loco in your hand upside down and applying powered wires across the pickups)

More information required before we can assist you further.

O'h and [#welcome] to the forum Rainer

Ian
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 26, 2005 6:07 AM
Hi Ian,

thanks for your questions.

First I'm a german 54 years old. So my englisch is better in talking than writing. so please appologize all following mistakes in advance.

Story is long:

Have a Fleischmann Loco with Fleischmann DCC-Decoder. Made the cable. Setup a Pentium 233 Mhz with WinNT. Have a Roco 10761 Booster with Lokmaus 2.

Loco was running with decoder and Lokmaus, ligth was functional with *-Button on Lokmaus. One Waggon has red ligths on the end which was burning with Lokmaus. Than tried DDW. Starting the server the Power on the rails was OK Ligth in the waggon was burning. But loco was not running anyway. Than switching back to lokmaus everything was OK but Ligth in zhe locomotiv was not burning again when switching on with *-Button. Then, I do not know why, I turnd the cable from Roco-booster tzo the rails. Light in the waggon did not burn anymore but lights in Loco was functinal again. If I turn the waggon on the rails so that tha red back lights are showing onto the loco it burns again. But all this was with the lokmaus. Absolutely no success with DDW. Itried everything Comport-settings, protocol. 1-2-3 state only DCC-protocol or DCC+ Motorola-protocoll.
No success!

So I change now to another Decoder (Piko-Uhlenbrock DCC) But have problems to install the light funktion, vbecause this decoder has blue ground-cable for the lights. But my Loco has the ground for lights in the chassis. I do not know how to change this. So I need professional help. Now we have 2 christmas holidays in germany. I will go to the shop on Tuesday to find help for this light+groundproblem. After that has been solved I will try again.
Would be nice to get further help in this forum.

kindest regards

Rainer
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Posted by challenger3802 on Monday, December 26, 2005 10:14 AM
As far as I am aware, Fleischmann DCC is a law unto itself; and unfortunately for you incompatible with every other type of DCC system. But from the problems you mention with your setup it sounds as if you may have the decoder wires hooked up to the wrong terminals in the loco. I think taking your loco for professional help is probably the best answer. Unless one of the other guys on here uses Fleischmann too.

Regards
Ian
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Posted by rolleiman on Monday, December 26, 2005 1:39 PM
Rainer, I'm not familiar with the Fleischmann DCC standard but what we call the Normal standard, everything is isolated from the decoder.. That is, there are no connections from the frame to the lights, they are only run from the decoder.. Same is true with the motor to track (and lights).. No physical connections to one another. I mention this because you said your lights are grounded to the frame.. From your description though, it sounds as if something is wired or set up (in the software) backwards.. With the NMRA DCC, some decoders will allow setting the lamp function to operate in the opposite way it normally would. I think if you are unsure, a local shop (as you say you will do) is going to be your best bet on this one..

Best wishes,
Jeff
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:32 AM
Hi,

its not that incompatible FMZ decoder it's a normal DCC-Decoder from Fleischmann.

Rainer
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Posted by claycts on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by alfonslehmann

Hi,

its not that incompatible FMZ decoder it's a normal DCC-Decoder from Fleischmann.

Rainer

What is NORMAL to Fleischmann is NOT normal to US DCC (NMRA) specs. You need the instruction book for the Fleischmann, your loco and other pieces. Then compare the conections to make sure there is nothing hooked up wrong. MOST systems have a trouble shooting part to work you arounf these problems.
Good Luck
George P.
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Posted by Medina1128 on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:18 PM
I'm not sure about the DCC issue, but I noticed your name. I had a neighbor named Rainer back in Arizona. His name was pronounced RY-NER, is yours pronounced the same way? Anyway, I hope you find a solution to your problem.

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