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Novice Big Water Screw Up

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Novice Big Water Screw Up
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 9, 2005 10:18 AM
Hi all:

After painting the riverbed, I realized that after I poured my first layer of Realistic Water, I was not pleased with the contrast colors for light and dark blue to simulate depth. [banghead]

Question, can I paint over the first pour to cover the mistake?

Thanks [bow]
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Posted by Adelie on Friday, September 9, 2005 10:21 AM
Welcome to the forums!! [#welcome][#welcome]

Too bad your first post is describing something you are not happy with, but that is probably true of many of us.

Is this something that can be remedied by tinting the second pour a little more? That is not only a question for you, but our resident water experts.

- Mark

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Posted by tstage on Friday, September 9, 2005 10:40 AM
Gerry,

Hmm. From the little I know, not good. It's too bad you didn't read the thread posted from yesterday before putting down your water:

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44697

You might pose or add your question to that particular thread. Someone is bound to help you with your perdicament. Sorry I can't help you out more.

BTW, Gerry, welcome to the forum! Good to have you aboard! [:)]

Tom

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 9, 2005 11:09 AM
Ouch!!

Thanks Tom and Mark. I guess I am a little late to fix what I did. Anyhow, trying is half of the fun. I guess I will have to start from a new riverbed, blend colors carefully and then pour when I am happy with the colors.

Many thanks again.
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Posted by selector on Friday, September 9, 2005 11:11 AM
Yes, you can paint over the surface, but to be sure of good adhesion, use a primer first...black would be a good choice. Then, have at it all over again. You'll win the war eventually.

Good luck.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 9, 2005 3:55 PM
I would make a comment about your choice of color for the water. Making water blue when modeling is a common mistake. The only place that you will find blue water is at sea in over 60' depth of "very" clean water. Even at sea, if you are near a river mouth, offshore a swampy or marshy area, the water will be either brown or some shade of green. In harbors, rivers, and streams the water will be green, brown, black, or a combination of those colors. The color depends on what is upstream of you water scene. Very shallow and clean streams will be clear.
If it is a scrub or desert type area, the water will be various shades of brown. Brown water is also found where ever there is any farming in the area.
If the water is down stream of a heavily forested area, in a swamp area, or marsh area, it will typically be black if it is deep, and clear if shallow. The black color comes from the tannin in the water given off by decaying plant matter.
Most harbors are different shades of green or brown.
If possible, go look at some water in the area that you are modeling.
I would say you can repaint. I would at least lightly sand your previous pour to give the new paint a good tooth to attach to.
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Posted by Medina1128 on Friday, September 9, 2005 7:58 PM
Screw-up; skru up; noun; from the Greek, meaning LEARNING EXPERIENCE. We've ALL made them. I'm with selector and Capt_Turk. Prime the existing water surface, and start over, using Cappy's suggestions for color.
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Posted by TBat55 on Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:30 AM
Paint over it (I use Rustoleum gloss black) and reapply the Realistic Water.

Seems to me the more you repeat this process the better it looks. You have to do several thin layers if it's deep - do not pour thick layers.

In a couple places I had problems. For one spot, I added a rock sticking out. In the other I used the WS Water Effects to make some ripples.






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Posted by ukguy on Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:28 PM
Terry, to be quite frank u dont post nearly enough pics of your excellent work [:D]

I agree with everyone else, repaint it and start again, its rare that anything is ever a total loss, and you always learn from it.
Let us know how it goes.

Have fun & be safe.
Karl.

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