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Posted by bogp40 on Monday, June 13, 2005 6:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by Robert Knapp

Jarrell,
If you have decent size of access from the side, a removable hatch or cover is not nec. The problems of hiding a removable section that is so "in your face, up close" is not worth the trouble. Besides, if you glue down a 1/2" plywood deck over the foam supports, you could expand the trackage for the logging branch and lay roadbed directly on the ply. This base could also act as a foundation for any structures, etc.
Bob K.

Bob, when I got it up to 4 inches high (the foam 'supports' you see here) I was gonna put a piece of the 2 inch foam (a base piece) over that and then build up from there. Bad idea?
Jarrell


Jarrell,
The only reason for suggesting the ply is additional strength with minimum height- would help keep the grade lower for the climb. Less supports needed to have better side access for derailments and track cleaning.
Bob K.

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Posted by bogp40 on Monday, June 13, 2005 6:59 PM
Jarrell,
Regarding the portals- many single track portals may not be wide enough to use on a turn.
Side clearance for passenger cars on the inside of the track and pilot overhang clearance on the outside of the track must be checked. You may need to purchase the portals to check these clearances before finishing these areas. You definately should know what portal is to be installed before capping the tunnel, this way you can add backers for the tunnel liner to correspond to the portal shape and construction(cut stone, masonry block, concrete or wood). If a portal needs to be wider, you can cut and add to the concrete styles and hide the seams. For W/S masonry portal, 2 portals need to be used to make one. Cuts just passed the centerline on both and glue back together gives a wider portal that allows the stone work to blend (keystone will just be larger) Don't forget the top clearance for taller equipment if it is to be used. Don't ask how I found this out (What do you mean the double stacks hit the portal!)
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Posted by tstage on Monday, June 13, 2005 7:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Zandoz

QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Jarrell,

Actually, there ARE curved turnouts available by Walthers-Shinohara. Unfortunately for us, they seem to pass over anything that could attach to a 22' radius curve. (18" then 24"...but NO 22"! That just completely mistifies me.. [V])

Tom


Model Power (Roco) had curved turnouts with the larger radius 22". The smaller was 18". I have several of them that I picked up years ago....but have had no chance to put them to use. I'm not sure when they stopped being available, but it may be worth keeping an eye out on ebay, and at train shows.

Zandoz,

Thanks, I didn't know that. But...I would assume that they are Code 100 and NOT Code 83. Yes?

I sure wi***hey'd come out with Code 83, 22" radius curved turnouts . Maybe I oughta just put a bug in Walthers and/or Peco's ear about that. Doesn't make sense to me...

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Posted by Zandoz on Monday, June 13, 2005 9:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

QUOTE: Originally posted by Zandoz

QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Jarrell,

Actually, there ARE curved turnouts available by Walthers-Shinohara. Unfortunately for us, they seem to pass over anything that could attach to a 22' radius curve. (18" then 24"...but NO 22"! That just completely mistifies me.. [V])

Tom


Model Power (Roco) had curved turnouts with the larger radius 22". The smaller was 18". I have several of them that I picked up years ago....but have had no chance to put them to use. I'm not sure when they stopped being available, but it may be worth keeping an eye out on ebay, and at train shows.

Zandoz,

Thanks, I didn't know that. But...I would assume that they are Code 100 and NOT Code 83. Yes?

I sure wi***hey'd come out with Code 83, 22" radius curved turnouts . Maybe I oughta just put a bug in Walthers and/or Peco's ear about that. Doesn't make sense to me...

Tom



Yes, you are correct... Code 100

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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Robert Knapp

QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by Robert Knapp

Jarrell,
If you have decent size of access from the side, a removable hatch or cover is not nec. The problems of hiding a removable section that is so "in your face, up close" is not worth the trouble. Besides, if you glue down a 1/2" plywood deck over the foam supports, you could expand the trackage for the logging branch and lay roadbed directly on the ply. This base could also act as a foundation for any structures, etc.
Bob K.

Bob, when I got it up to 4 inches high (the foam 'supports' you see here) I was gonna put a piece of the 2 inch foam (a base piece) over that and then build up from there. Bad idea?
Jarrell


Jarrell,
The only reason for suggesting the ply is additional strength with minimum height- would help keep the grade lower for the climb. Less supports needed to have better side access for derailments and track cleaning.
Bob K.

This is true, it would be stronger. I think I need to do as Woodland Scenics suggest and that is sometimes it is better to start at the top of the incline and work your way down instead of the other way around. Right now I'm just about out of foam so I have to get more. Its a pretty big piece that will cover that area, the section that is the roof of the tunnel, that is.
Thanks for the suggestions Bob.
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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Robert Knapp

Jarrell,
Regarding the portals- many single track portals may not be wide enough to use on a turn.
Side clearance for passenger cars on the inside of the track and pilot overhang clearance on the outside of the track must be checked. You may need to purchase the portals to check these clearances before finishing these areas. You definately should know what portal is to be installed before capping the tunnel, this way you can add backers for the tunnel liner to correspond to the portal shape and construction(cut stone, masonry block, concrete or wood). If a portal needs to be wider, you can cut and add to the concrete styles and hide the seams. For W/S masonry portal, 2 portals need to be used to make one. Cuts just passed the centerline on both and glue back together gives a wider portal that allows the stone work to blend (keystone will just be larger) Don't forget the top clearance for taller equipment if it is to be used. Don't ask how I found this out (What do you mean the double stacks hit the portal!)
Bob K.

......"Don't ask how I found this out (What do you mean the double stacks hit the portal!)"....

[(-D] Yes, I have a feeling I'm going to come across a lot of those situations.. You know, I was amazed that on the outside of the Woodland Scenics boxes no dimensions where given for their portals and neither did Walthers list them in their HO catalog.
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Posted by Medina1128 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:37 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, the dimensions are listed on the WS web site.
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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Medina1128

Unless I'm mistaken, the dimensions are listed on the WS web site.

Marlon, thats a beauty of an engine in your signature, who makes it? DCC and sound?
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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:30 PM
Jarrell,

I believe that's the new BLI UP 4-8-2 Mountain. (http://www.trainworld1.com/broadwayltd/index.html) I just saw it listed on the Trainworld.com site about 15 minutes ago - $90 off MSRP! Only comes in AT&SF scheme though.

Tom

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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Jarrell,

I believe that's the new BLI UP 4-8-2 Mountain. (http://www.trainworld1.com/broadwayltd/index.html) I just saw it listed on the Trainworld.com site about 15 minutes ago - $90 off MSRP! Only comes in AT&SF scheme though.

Tom


Nice! [:p]
I don't guess many of these ran around in the North Carolina/Tennessee mountains though. [:(]
Thanks Tom.
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Posted by Medina1128 on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:11 AM
Actually, Jacon, that's the BLI Santa Fe 4-8-4. Yep, sound AND DCC. It's sounds and runs as good as it looks. My wife got it for me for our 6th wedding anniversary! Ya gotta love a woman like that.. I know I do!!
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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:21 AM
Marion,

Thanks for the correction. (Guess I shoulda counted the wheels - duh?) Still, a very handsome locomotive indeed...

Tom

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Posted by jacon12 on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Medina1128

Actually, Jacon, that's the BLI Santa Fe 4-8-4. Yep, sound AND DCC. It's sounds and runs as good as it looks. My wife got it for me for our 6th wedding anniversary! Ya gotta love a woman like that.. I know I do!!

Like-a so..
http://www.internethobbies.com/brliimhosafe.html
Hmmmm..... they ever use these in North Carolina or Tennessee in the '40s> [:D]
Oh well..
Thanks for the info.
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Posted by tstage on Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:45 AM
Jarrell,

Get an undecorated one and pretend it was mistakenly shipped to NC by Warner Brothers Acme Shipping Co. because....they took a "wrong turn at Albuquerque". Sounds legitimate to me...[:D]

Tom

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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Jarrell,

Get an undecorated one and pretend it was mistakenly shipped to NC by Warner Brothers Acme Shipping Co. because....they took a "wrong turn at Albuquerque". Sounds legitimate to me...[:D]

Tom

[:)] Heck.. works for me!!
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Posted by oleirish on Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Jarrell,

Get an undecorated one and pretend it was mistakenly shipped to NC by Warner Brothers Acme Shipping Co. because....they took a "wrong turn at Albuquerque". Sounds legitimate to me...[:D]

Tom

[:)] Heck.. works for me!!
Jarrell
[:D]Jarrell: just rember it is your railroad,so if you want an mallett on there that would be just fine,BTW there is an logging mallett avable for under $100.00 and looks fine,would go fine with a SHAY,and Maybe a HYSTER[}:)][8D]

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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oleirish

QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by tstage

Jarrell,

Get an undecorated one and pretend it was mistakenly shipped to NC by Warner Brothers Acme Shipping Co. because....they took a "wrong turn at Albuquerque". Sounds legitimate to me...[:D]

Tom

[:)] Heck.. works for me!!
Jarrell
[:D]Jarrell: just rember it is your railroad,so if you want an mallett on there that would be just fine,BTW there is an logging mallett avable for under $100.00 and looks fine,would go fine with a SHAY,and Maybe a HYSTER[}:)][8D]

Jim

Jim, I'm trying to save up for a nice Shay, but things like turnouts and track and foam and glue keep getting in the way. The other day I bought another, what I thought would be my last, 2 inch 2x8 foot foam. I didn't even notice that the guy loaded 1 1/2 inch on my truck ( I thought it came only in one and two inch thickness). I didn't notice it when I measured off some pieces and cut it up. Idid notice it when I laid one of the on the layout!
They'd probably give me another one if I took the pieces back but I can probably use it for other things. In fact, I know I can.
I gotta pay closer attention! [;)]
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