*sigh*

[jacon12]

I really would like to have one of these... I really really would. But for now I have a question about this Bachman Shay. Can it easily negotiate a 4 to 5% grade?

sure is purty, ain't it.
Jarrell

[ndbprr]

Any engine out there can negotiate a 4-5% grade BUT you need a long transition for long wheel base engines and load is diminished. That is exactly what the Shay was made for. mostly used by logging companies they even ran on wood rails made on the spot. 5% shouldn't be a problem at all.

[Anonymous]

Jarrell,

I have three. These locos are great. One of my favorites. We had a showdown on level track between a P2K 2-8-8-2 and single shay to see who could pull more cars. The shay came within 5 cars of the P2k. Perhaps this speaks badly of the P2K, I don't remember how may cars, but there were a lot. The prototype regularly ran on very steep grades.

Beautiful model that runs like a swiss watch........

[jacon12]

Thanks Guy and Ndbprr.
Guy that Gaylor truss bridge is a beauty!
I don't suppose these locomotives are available with dcc and sound, are they? That would be tooooo much I guess.
Jarrell

[ereimer]

soundtraxx makes a dcc decoder with sound that is supposed to drop right into the bachmann shay

http://soundtraxx.com/dcc/hoshay.html

i haven't bought the decoder yet , already have the shay , so i can't say if the install is as easy as it looks on soundtraxx's website

and i don't have a layout yet so i don't know how well it manages steep grades , but i will be extremely dissapointed if the model of one of the best hill climbing loco's ever made didn't climb like a mountain goat

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ereimer

soundtraxx makes a dcc decoder with sound that is supposed to drop right into the bachmann shay

http://soundtraxx.com/dcc/hoshay.html

i haven't bought the decoder yet , already have the shay , so i can't say if the install is as easy as it looks on soundtraxx's website

and i don't have a layout yet so i don't know how well it manages steep grades , but i will be extremely dissapointed if the model of one of the best hill climbing loco's ever made didn't climb like a mountain goat

Great! Thanks ereimer.
Jarrell

[oleirish]

Jarrell: You mean like these shays[:D] These is a 70ton three truck Willamette made here in oregon in 1925 .Itwas alogger for medco here for years.Right now it is being re-bulit,About two miles from me.

[^]OLE'IRISH

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250

Jarrell,

I have three. These locos are great. One of my favorites. We had a showdown on level track between a P2K 2-8-8-2 and single shay to see who could pull more cars. The shay came within 5 cars of the P2k. Perhaps this speaks badly of the P2K, I don't remember how may cars, but there were a lot. The prototype regularly ran on very steep grades.

Beautiful model that runs like a swiss watch........

I read on one website that the prototype could do as much as 14% grades. That's pretty steep!
Jarrell

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: soundtraxx makes a dcc decoder with sound that is supposed to drop right into the bachmann shay

http://soundtraxx.com/dcc/hoshay.html

i haven't bought the decoder yet , already have the shay , so i can't say if the install is as easy as it looks on soundtraxx's website

and i don't have a layout yet so i don't know how well it manages steep grades , but i will be extremely dissapointed if the model of one of the best hill climbing loco's ever made didn't climb like a mountain goat

I have installed the Soundtraxx unit in one of my shays...Drop in it aint. You have to take the tender trucks off and partially dis-assemble the model. There are holes to be drilled (in metal) and a capacitor to be cut. You have to fit the coal/fuel bunker with a speaker and construct a baffle. None of this is very hard but it does take time and could be intimidating depending on your modeling skills.

Bachmann did sell a limited number of these with sound already installed. Watch ebay as they come up quitre often. The LC decoder offers good sound quality but not as loud or powerful as the BLI locos. Considering the space that it fits in, it sounds pretty good. At first I was a little disappointed with the sound but have since grown to like it.

[ereimer]

QUOTE:
I have installed the Soundtraxx unit in one of my shays...Drop in it aint.

oh great [:(]

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by oleirish

Jarrell: You mean like these shays[:D] These is a 70ton three truck Willamette made here in oregon in 1925 .Itwas alogger for medco here for years.Right now it is being re-bulit,About two miles from me.

[^]OLE'IRISH

Beautiful aren't they OleIrish. Can you get in to see them as they're being rebuilt?
Jarrell

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ereimer

QUOTE:
I have installed the Soundtraxx unit in one of my shays...Drop in it aint.

oh great [:(]

[#ditto]
Why is it never as simple as they say it is.
I'll answer that!
Fewer would buy it?
Jarrell

[Anonymous]

Alright whats with all the long faces?? Surely (don't call me that) you guys can drill a few holes (two I beleive) and do some other work to get a cool sounding, awesome looking loco. I was just making the point that they are stretching the truth to call it a drop it installation. Now that you know what to expect, you won't be unpleasantly surprised when you buy the decoder. Personally, I will be doing more of these installs in the future....

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250

Alright whats with all the long faces?? Surely (don't call me that) you guys can drill a few holes (two I beleive) and do some other work to get a cool sounding, awesome looking loco. I was just making the point that they are stretching the truth to call it a drop it installation. Now that you know what to expect, you won't be unpleasantly surprised when you buy the decoder. Personally, I will be doing more of these installs in the future....

Guy, you've never heard anything I installed sound in. It goes something like thripppp... guggle guggle... thriiiiiiiipp.
Seriously, I wouldn't know where to drill those two holes. Well, maybe the instruction sheet is better than most I've seen..[^]
Jarrell

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250

Alright whats with all the long faces?? Surely (don't call me that) you guys can drill a few holes (two I beleive) and do some other work to get a cool sounding, awesome looking loco. I was just making the point that they are stretching the truth to call it a drop it installation. Now that you know what to expect, you won't be unpleasantly surprised when you buy the decoder. Personally, I will be doing more of these installs in the future....

Guy, you've never heard anything I installed sound in. It goes something like thripppp... guggle guggle... thriiiiiiiipp.
Seriously, I wouldn't know where to drill those two holes. Well, maybe the instruction sheet is better than most I've seen..[^]
Jarrell

But I'm glad you explained how it really is!
Jarrell

[ereimer]

don't worry , i'll be doing the install soon .

and i'll be asking for help here if i run into any trouble !

[jacon12]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ereimer

don't worry , i'll be doing the install soon .

and i'll be asking for help here if i run into any trouble !

If you don't mind, let me know how it goes when you do the install.
Jarrell

[oleirish]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by oleirish

Jarrell: You mean like these shays[:D] These is a 70ton three truck Willamette made here in oregon in 1925 .Itwas alogger for medco here for years.Right now it is being re-bulit,About two miles from me.

[^]OLE'IRISH

Beautiful aren't they OleIrish. Can you get in to see them as they're being rebuilt?
Jarrell

Jarrell: I'am watching MEDCO #4 being rebuilt,and once in while I even can get my hands dirty,the going is slow,MEDCO#2 no one is sure what happned to it.OLE'IRISH

[oleirish]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250

Jarrell,

I have three. These locos are great. One of my favorites. We had a showdown on level track between a P2K 2-8-8-2 and single shay to see who could pull more cars. The shay came within 5 cars of the P2k. Perhaps this speaks badly of the P2K, I don't remember how may cars, but there were a lot. The prototype regularly ran on very steep grades.

Beautiful model that runs like a swiss watch........

During deer season I used to walk the old R.R.grade that the old MEDCO#4 used it is pretty steep up there(notice I said I used too)[:D]
I read on one website that the prototype could do as much as 14% grades. That's pretty steep!
Jarrell

[oleirish]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jacon12

I really would like to have one of these... I really really would. But for now I have a question about this Bachman Shay. Can it easily negotiate a 4 to 5% grade?

sure is purty, ain't it.
Jarrell

Jarrell I was on E-BAY a while ago and saw an Bachman 80 ton shay for bid,I droped a bid but some ulse raised it around $80.00 good buy if you can win,I backed of cause I thought maybe it was you[:p][}:)]
JIM