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I've been thinking about your post for a while. Your theme and your 2'x8' space is nearly exactly what I had in mind earlier last year but abandoned as not being enough space, and I am modeling in N Scale. I'm assuming you're modeling in HO. 8' is just not enough length to consider a point to point layout, especially since the 2' width doesn't allow your track to turn and double back over itself. If it's at all possible to include the second 2X8 leg right away, I would do it.. Much of Dave's suggestions will work if you get a bit of length to allow for a switchback up the mountain. Picture an L rotated 90 degrees clockwise. At the right end of the top leg, towards the front is the docks. Track runs to the left, around the corner and to the end of the left leg. That's where I'd put the sawmill. Then back up a train length would be the spur track climbing the hill around the bend at the corner of the legs and on to the logging camp which is on the hill just above the docks at the right end. You would need a runaround or passing siding on the lower level to accomplish your switching moves. As Dave said, locos could often back up one part of the round trip. Across Lake Champlin from here, The Rich Lumber Company would back their Shays up the 6% grade in their switchbacks up the Green Mountains. The mainline track at the sawmill could represent a continuation of the mainline for some off-layout staging. A carfloat at the docks could bring traffic that would be destined to continue off the opposite end of the layout. Thus, all your traffic wouldn't need to be logging/lumber related. Email me know if you'ld like a sketch of what I'm rambling on about. Wayne
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