Water/streams and lakes

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have pictures showing the process used in creating rivers, streams, lakes and harbours[:D]? I would really appreciate any help inthis subject. We are a newly formed HO/DCC module club in Stockholm Sweden. http://www.geocities.com/malarmodulmote/
Thanks[:)]

[dave9999]

smeno,
Here's a link to a post from a while back showing how I made the small
mountain stream on my layout.
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28626

And here's a link to my Photobucket album. You can see more pictures
there... page two and three have some better shots. Good luck, Dave
http://photobucket.com/albums/v491/davegator/

[CNJ831]

Seno - a word of advice. Very few websites or modelers' homepages go into enough detail to provide a really good tutorial on any specific modeling subject, particularly ones that are somewhat complex (like modeling major bodies of water). While the authors are well meaning, often small but highly important details are left out for the sake of being as brief as possible or simply by accident. This being so, do yourself/your group a big favor and purchase a good scenery book or two that covers the subject of modeling water in detail. Not only will it likely prove a much better reference guide, it will probably offer several different ways (or products) for approaching the same project.

I'd also suggest using MR's magazine index to look for recent articles on the subject. I definitely recall the subject being addressed by both Dave Popp and Iain Rice, although not in the greatest of detail, in just the last year's worth of MRs.

CNJ831

[hminky]

I have web articles on making water and other scenery indexed on my 4x8 page:

http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/4x8/



That is the rushing water and there are articles about making everything in the scene. I use lots of pictures in the articles.

Hope that helps and thank you if you visit[:D]
Harold

[selector]

Harold, if I haven't commented before, I am impressed with your site. Quite apart from the excellent scenery, your site is well-designed and highly informative. Well done!!

-Crandell

[dave9999]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNJ831

Seno - a word of advice. Very few websites or modelers' homepages go into enough detail to provide a really good tutorial on any specific modeling subject, particularly ones that are somewhat complex (like modeling major bodies of water).

Maybe not, but giving him different examples of projects that have worked will
also give him ideas as to make the project work for him.

QUOTE:
Originally posted by CNJ831
While the authors are well meaning, often small but highly important details are left out for the sake of being as brief as possible or simply by accident.

CNJ831

This is also true, although, we are talking about modeling and not building a rocket.
Unless he is planning a scale model of the Gulf of Mexico, a college course on
water modeling should not be required. A little trial and error can be expected whether
he reads a library full of books or simply views some "well meaning" modeler's humble
pictures. Thanks for your time, Dave

[hminky]

On this note about web articles being incomplete and missing details. Having had an article published, editors add and subtract . This leaves out important or adds wrong material. That is why I like doing web articles, I can include the ugly as well as the good. The web article is not trying to fill space between ads. Though the pay scale on my website is very low.

Just a thought
Harold

P.S. Thank you Crandell for your comments

[Anonymous]

Thank you everyone [:D][:)][8D]for your advice. Last Saturday we were able to connect 48 modules in various lengths(800mm to 1600mm).

Take a look at "Running day at MMM" http://www.sjolund.homelinux.net/index.php?newlang=eng, my modules have the red church and a harbour river with granite rocks on the side.

Scenary is that which catches your eye on a module, so we will begin by testing different water construction methods. Please continue to give me your thoughts.
Thanks
Seth

QUOTE: Originally posted by hminky

On this note about web articles being incomplete and missing details. Having had an article published, editors add and subtract . This leaves out important or adds wrong material. That is why I like doing web articles, I can include the ugly as well as the good. The web article is not trying to fill space between ads. Though the pay scale on my website is very low.

Just a thought
Harold

P.S. Thank you Crandell for your comments

[selector]

Well, I'm not really in the same league as many who would answer here, but I will offer my method, and it is not new. I cut out the river banks and bed from the extruded foam, and then lined the river bed and lower bank with powdered wood putty mixed with enough water to enable me to spread the putty. When that dried, I had a paintable, sandable, and liquid-proof surface on which to pour a resin or epoxy. I painted the river bed and banks, and then mixed a two-part epoxy (hardener and resin). I had lots of time to pour and spread the epoxy (no need to hurry!). Then, if small bubbles rise, simple breath on them, or use a hair dryer, on the hottest setting, but lowest fan speed, and sweep it over the surface of the epoxy at about 20 cm in height. The bubbles will release.

No pictures, sadly, but you can imagine. Harold's pictures are worth a million words.

When it hardens, in about an hour and a bit, you have your river.