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Staging area around a tight curve

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Staging area around a tight curve
Posted by Dr. Yellow on Wednesday, March 27, 2024 4:17 PM

Hi,

I am in the early planning stages for my second HO scale layout and am wondering if anyone has advice about how to fit a few curved tracks around the end of a tight island peninsula to serve as staging for (ideally) three 8-10 car trains.

Run through staging would be ideal, but may be impossible. The "scenicked" portion will end where the backdrop board does.

The layout is an L shaped island with a main loop to facilitate continous running. My space is fairly limited, so any extension on the peninsula can only extend 2-3 feet to the right (1 grid segment = 1 foot) of what is shown, but I am hoping to work something out so a few trains can end their run and be held on the top right. Considering that I can realistically only use 18 and 22" curves in the space, planning is proving difficult as I think a helix or multi deck option would be impractical.

Thanks for your suggestions!

 

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Posted by snjroy on Thursday, March 28, 2024 11:24 AM

Welcome to the forum! The forum moderators will moderate your first few posts, so please be patient.

My suggestion would be to post your workspace or planned layout. Even a picture of a hand-drawn plan, with some dimensions, would help.

Simon

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, March 28, 2024 11:30 PM

Hi Dr. Yellow,

Welcome to the forums!        Welcome

Unfortunately the image of your layout plan didn't post. You will need to use a photo hosting site like Imgur. There is an explanation of how to post an image at the top of the General Discussion forum.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by jjdamnit on Friday, March 29, 2024 2:03 PM

Hello All,

Welcome to the forums!

Dr. Yellow
...a few curved tracks around the end of a tight island peninsula to serve as staging for (ideally) three 8-10 car trains.

What do you consider "a few" staging tracks?

On my pike I have 15-inch curves on the "Mainline".

This limits my motive power to 4-axle diesels and 0-6-0 steam engines.

How long are the individual 8-10 cars you are planning on staging?

Peco makes HO Code 100 turnouts with a #2 frog; ST-240 & ST-241.

I use these on a wye with 15-inch radius legs.

Curved turnouts might be a solution but these tend to have a #7 frog or greater, which takes up more real estate- -which you seem to be short of.

Coupling and uncoupling on a curve is difficult to say the least.

An easement, a straight section of transition track before the curves, would make coupling and uncoupling easier.

A rule of thumb for the transition track would be half the length of the longest car(s).

Keep in mind that a minimum center-to-center track spacing would be 2 inches in HO. A more comfortable spacing would be 2-1/2 inches.

As has been suggested, a track diagram would be helpful.

Keep the questions coming, learn how to post an image of your track plan and as always...

Hope this helps.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, March 29, 2024 4:28 PM

You have mentioned that this staging are will not likely be pull-through, so more likely back-in or back-out.  These can be a problem in certain situations, most of which involve curves.  Any cars with truck mounted "Talgo" couplers will have a tendency to derail when backing up, because of the forces involved when pushing rather than pulling these cars.  Longer cars like gondolas or flats might see these problems to a lesser extent, even with body-mounted couplers.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, April 3, 2024 3:29 PM

Can we pls get a schematic (no need for perfection) of what you're trying to achieve?

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