Does anyone know of any. My board needs them for vertical movement.z
Hi jfb,
Your question is very vague. Please elaborate. My mind reading skills are not working right now.
Cheers!!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
I am adding my steel board module to my self made room in my basement. It's about35pds. The board has to stop when lowered. A pulley system will not work. The slides need a stop built in. Using 2x4as a stop will use to much room. I need to walk under this area. I am6feet.
If 2x4 is in the way, the draw glides will be too. I use glides on my lift out it sits on brackets. When down. i don't follow I am not seeing how your problem is. By the lack of answers, so far. Others probably are too. Could you draw up a sketch of the plan?
shane
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Is this for a workbench?
A picture would greatly help. Thanks! You can get drawer hardware but knowing what you are wanting to do is easier with a pic pls.
kasskabooseIs this for a workbench?
Vertical implies this is a lift out section
"A 35 pound steel module", that is a hefty piece. Maybe it's not MR related at all.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
"I am adding my steel board module to my self made room in my basement. It's about35pds. The board has to stop when lowered."
This steel "board" seems overdone, and to me sounds somewhat similar to a guillotine. If the piece of steel needs to be horizontal, then why not put it on hinges, fastenened to the wall, with a stop to prevent it from lowering any .further.
My choice would be for using plywood, but as mentioned, a 35lb slab of steel is overkill.
It would help us understand if the OP would give us a sketch of what he's trying to build.
Wayne
Uploadingpictures is out no way to do it. The35pds is a estimate. I am just trying to get the board to go up and down and stop at 34 inches from the floor. Any idea would be welcomed. Except a ugly pulley. I cannot see how drawer slides would stop at a point without a metal tab in it.
jfb Uploadingpictures is out no way to do it. The35pds is a estimate. I am just trying to get the board to go up and down and stop at 34 inches from the floor. Any idea would be welcomed. Except a ugly pulley. I cannot see how drawer slides would stop at a point without a metal tab in it.
Okay, it sounds like what you're asking for are drawer slides for a lift-out section of your layout, so you can enter your train room without ducking? Finding one that will stretch from 34" off the ground (presumably the height of your layout) to high enough to let a 6' person comfortably walk underneath (maybe 6'6") will be a tall order (heh), because you need slides that are less than 34" long when closed but extend to 78" high when extended! 35 pounds does seem pretty chunky--how big is the section you're lifting in square feet?
Assuming you can find a suitable drawer slide that goes that far, you'd set it up so the lifting section sets down into the gap using French cleats or other method to register the section precisely and securely, so you don't need to worry about stopping it on the way down--the challenge will be holding up 35 pounds (or whatever it is) of layout when it's up! Some drawer slides have latches, but for safety you might want to install a hook or other mechanism to secure the lifting section in the "up" position that hangs down from the ceiling, then you can disengage it and lower it to the "down" position when operating.
Finding a drawer slide that goes from 34" to 78", which means 44" of travel, will be tough--generally a drawer in a cabinet isn't going to be any deeper than the cabinet itself, so there's no reason to make a drawer slide 34" deep with 44" of travel. You might have to fabricate a telescoping system of some sort, or mount brackets on the wall on either side of the door that let you slide the section up and down.
35pds was a estimate complete ashland iron and steel models 3x8board wiring track 5lines plus4morec decent models. Raising the drawer slides to 34inches heigh to start is no problem. Then up as much as possible. And your right I am avoiding a duck under dropping this section down could be a expensive disaster.
Why doesn't it sit on something when it's down instead of relying on the slides to hold it? I'm not understanding what you really need to do.
I guess what I'm envisioning is a section of layout that can be raised up and down while remaining horizontal. Though I'm curious why a regular hinged section wouldn't work. That's a pretty tried and true method.
Is this similar to what you are trying to do? The draw glides are for lifting this section up to pass under. The lift out has tabs that rest on the fixed benchwork when down. Not really visible here. or abouve
Exactly how was it done. The guides I've seen do not have stops. I have a flat resiting area across from it to land 3feet away
jfb Exactly how was it done. The guides I've seen do not have stops. I have a flat resiting area across from it to land 3feet away
In the post above, it is stated the moving section rests on the benchwork when it is down. Why don't you do that? Or add blocks at the end of the slides. I still don't understand why you need slides with stops
I have never looked into drawer slides. This information is a learning experience for me. I did not want the board to drop at the slides. I would have 3feet walking room when lifted.i was also considering hinges but going up could cause vertical issues with the blast furnace. Down could create a disaster. Please explain how you did it. I have been critiquing .
Like I was saying 1st time use with slides. So shane how does it work. Plus does the slide
stop at a point.
When I get home today I will get better pics to explain what I did. These slide do not have stops
When the lifting section is in place on the layout it is supported by the layout benchwork. The slides could be removed entirely at that point and the section is still supported by the benchwork. The slides are only in use when the section is raised.
Hopefully the additional pictures will make it clear, not sure how much simpler it could be put in writing.
All the slides do is keep it in line when lifting so it can do tight clearences and not damage the scenery. . It is just a notch in the plywood that the liftout drops into and rests on. The slides do nothing but keep the liftout inline while lifting. it is counterballanced to make it easier to lift so little effort is needed.
This one is also set up to be an electrical circut to shut off power to a 3 foot sectio on each end of the approaches when open. the last pic you can see the ledge it sits on. which is the benchwork. The above pic shows the underside of the benchwork where it sits
Shane
I'm afraid I still do not understand what the desired result is supposed to be.
If this is supposed to be a lift out section, why can it not be just lifted out and put down somewhere else? Is is just supposed to be lifted straight up and held in that position with a passage or duckunder below?
If your asking me it's 3x9..that's a long piece to put somewhere. I will be putting wood on the wall studs to my needed height for it to resting height then the slides will go up for walking room with some slouching.
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3x9 is a little large and unwieldy for just draw guides. A counter weighted pulley lift that is equalize is a better option. one balanced so you don't have to lift Just release locks and the counter weights do the lifting. All you have to do is pull down. Also needs to be equalized other wise you will be taking freight cars off every time so they don't roll off to the cornfield meet with the floor every time you lift it. 3x9 is a very large lift out Don't know of anybody that has done one 5at large.
This months NMRA mag has an article on constructing lift outs
jfb If your asking me it's 3x9..that's a long piece to put somewhere. I will be putting wood on the wall studs to my needed height for it to resting height then the slides will go up for walking room with some slouching.
Okay, so you're planning on, not just a lift-out section, but what sounds like your entire layout (3 feet by 9 feet) up above your head? You're going to need something a lot more robust than a couple of drawer pulls! What are the dimensions of the room? Where is the door? Is there somewhere else in the room, other than directly in front of the door, where you could put the layout, like up against a different wall, or in the middle of the room?
Seriously, you may have to figure out a way to post an image, perhaps take a picture of the layout and room, and/or show us a diagram of what you're trying to do. People are trying to help you here, but we can't figure out what you're asking, which makes that a lot more difficult.