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Any creative builds around basement supports?

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Any creative builds around basement supports?
Posted by dtabor on Friday, January 28, 2022 1:34 PM

The layout Im designing for my basement will have one of the support posts "in" it. The support is already encased in wood, about 7x7" or so, and will be toward the edge 1/3 of the shelf. Anyone have a creative way to integrate that post? I thought about building hills/landscape up around it which is fine but then will have the post coming out the top of the hill. I know, I should design around it but the way the room is set up, to get the most of it, this is the way it needs to be.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, January 28, 2022 6:07 PM

I  gotta figure out a way to put some scenery or a cliff to hide this post.  It's the only one:

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Posted by tstage on Friday, January 28, 2022 6:11 PM

Drill a hole and make it a tunnel. Whistling

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Posted by Pruitt on Friday, January 28, 2022 6:26 PM

You could take John Allen's lead and reproduce his Devil's Post Pile.

Or make the scenery layout-to-ceiling around the post.

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Posted by dknelson on Friday, January 28, 2022 6:38 PM

Pruitt

You could take John Allen's lead and reproduce his Devil's Post Pile.

Or make the scenery layout-to-ceiling around the post.

 

 
Or take yet another lead from John Allen and remove the post, thus making part of the room above "off limits" at all times.  As his friend Jim Findley (who was with John Allen the night he took ill and died) wrote "considering John's size, this took the nerves of a riverboat gambler."
 
I have also encased one of my house's supports in wood.  Right now it is painted the same semi gloss white as the walls (those walls that do not have a backdrop on them that is.   I am not sure what I intend as a final solution - maybe this is a final solution.  I had some thought of mounting fast clocks on the faces of this vertical box so everyone can see the "model" time easily.  
 
I have seen supports painted blue to match the backdrop "sky," and I have even seen some painted with actual backdrop type scenery -- trees and such, a sort of reverse cyclorama effect.  And I just bet somewhere out there are modelers who have applied static grass or ground foam to their support columns!  Come on guys -- 'fess up.
 
But frankly every effort I have seen to in some way integrate the post, whether left as a cylinder or encased in a wood box, into the scenery with paint or stuff on it fails in one way or another.  Nothing in nature curves like that to that size.  Maybe in G gauge it could be a smokestack or a modern blue farm silo, but in any smaller scale it just falls flat as an effect.
 
So I suggest either painting it white to make it as unobtrusive as possible, or do the old theater trick of painting it dead black which the casual eye tends to simply not see.  
 
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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, January 28, 2022 7:56 PM

A curved mirror on it could make it disappear if you could find someone to make it.  Best bet is to have some really big eye catching industry or scenery at the base so people are focused to look down

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Posted by wrench567 on Friday, January 28, 2022 8:15 PM

City scene with a giant sky scraper. Giant Sequoia tree.

 I've seen the column support a dual helix that went up to a second level and down under for a staging yard. Tunnel portals going into a mountain.

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Friday, January 28, 2022 8:40 PM

I agree with Dave.  Paint it black and ignore it.  While folks are concentrating on running a train they probably won't even notice it.   In photos you can always photoshop it out.

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, January 28, 2022 10:28 PM

I have two visible support posts in my basement layout room, and another two hidden within a wall.  I wasn't too concerned with one of the visible ones, as it's in an area where there's a staging yard (actually multiple staging yards), with no scenery or structures...

The other one is right out there in full view, but it's not really impinging on the scene...

I barely notice them any more.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, January 29, 2022 2:04 AM
I’m with Dave and Ray, paint it matt black.
 
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Posted by riogrande5761 on Saturday, January 29, 2022 8:41 AM

Wayne,  paint them sky blue and then it won't even be a barely notice.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, January 29, 2022 1:30 PM

riogrande5761

Wayne,  paint them sky blue and then it won't even be a barely notice.

That's a good idea, Jim, but I'm a bit concerned that I might not remember it's there, and walk right into it. Bang Head

Your layout is certainly coming along very nicely.  I hope that you'll continue sharing photos of your progress.

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Posted by Doughless on Saturday, January 29, 2022 2:04 PM

I suggest to build the scenery as you normally would.  An unnatural shape to the scenery might draw attention to the area more than disguise it.

Paint it sky blue or even black.  Artists use black to represent something that's not supposed to be there, and model railroad layouts use sky blue to represent the "unknown beyond".

As Wayne said, he doesn't even notice it.  

Your brain will train your eyes to ignore it because you know that its not part of the layout.

A visitor or a person looking at a photo might notice it, but who cares about those guys.  Smile

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, January 29, 2022 5:17 PM

I was in a local meeting discussing how to hide lamp poles in a parking lot.  The consensus among the technical types was to paint them black to make them disappear.

In this case, that might not work.  I would look for a few things to hang on the post, particularly logos and emblems from the home railroad.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by dtabor on Sunday, January 30, 2022 7:24 PM

thanks everyone for the pictures and ideas. I didnt think my issue would be as common as it appears to be here!

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Posted by NorthsideChi on Monday, January 31, 2022 9:13 AM

As someone mentioned above, you can wrap it in some mirror like material.  If that's difficult to find,  check the sheet metal aisle for HVAC materials for some semi reflective metal that will wrap it. Small metal posts really aren't that distracting. Could be worse.  I have a diagonal steel beam bracing a large support column. There's no hiding that.  

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