richhotrain Lastspikemike As a relatively new member I understand why this forum has trouble keeping new members. I noticed that while researching topics of interest to me. However, even if I tried to explain this I would be misunderstood by the very posters that are the problem. This is called blaming the victim. You, sir, are the problem, not the rest of us.
Lastspikemike
As a relatively new member I understand why this forum has trouble keeping new members. I noticed that while researching topics of interest to me. However, even if I tried to explain this I would be misunderstood by the very posters that are the problem.
As a relatively new member I understand why this forum has trouble keeping new members. I noticed that while researching topics of interest to me.
However, even if I tried to explain this I would be misunderstood by the very posters that are the problem.
This is called blaming the victim. You, sir, are the problem, not the rest of us.
Amen, amen, and amen.
Disclaimer: This post may contain humor, sarcasm, and/or flatulence.
Michael Mornard
Bringing the North Woods to South Dakota!
Doughless Lastspikemike As a relatively new member I understand why this forum has trouble keeping new members. I noticed that while researching topics of interest to me. However, even if I tried to explain this I would be misunderstood by the very posters that are the problem. I for one do not think you are a troll. And actually appreciate a lot of what you have to say. Free thinking is a good thing. Assuming that you have humility and sincerity that approaches average human levels, I'll offer what I've learned on this forum when it comes to drafting comments. Our group's experiences vary as they pertain to time and circumstances. What is absolutely right to one, is completey wrong to another, or many, depending upon how broad or narrow our experiences are. I for one am interested in building layouts with a modern shortline theme. Its not a particulalry popular theme amongst the group. As an example of circumstances influencing my experience in the hobby: There have been times years ago where there were heavy dc vs dcc conversations in many threads. I took the opinion that operating multiple trains at one time was not a feasible activity, so there would be "no advantage for someone to have a nonsound dcc system that allows for multiple independent train control", rather than simply having dc. (I still have that opinion by the way ) I ran one train at a time, no matter how big the layout was. Always have, always will. So my right-minded opinion came (comes) from my circumstance. Others have different circumstances. For instance, club style layouts, with many members needing to control many trains at the same time. DCC is much better than flipping toggle blocks for 5 operators. And its not only a group thing. Some lone wolfs like to model engine servicing. While only having one operator move one loco at a time, cramming 26 locos into a 20 SF engine servicing module would be a pain to wire and operate in DC. DCC is much better for that style of layout. So while making a statement such as, for example, "there is no advantage to a DCC system over DC" might look correct to the person writing it, its actually quite wrong. The problem arises when the writer has no ability or willingness to comprehend how wrong they are. And that's not a matter of opinion.
Lastspikemike As a relatively new member I understand why this forum has trouble keeping new members. I noticed that while researching topics of interest to me. However, even if I tried to explain this I would be misunderstood by the very posters that are the problem.
I for one do not think you are a troll. And actually appreciate a lot of what you have to say. Free thinking is a good thing.
Assuming that you have humility and sincerity that approaches average human levels, I'll offer what I've learned on this forum when it comes to drafting comments.
Our group's experiences vary as they pertain to time and circumstances. What is absolutely right to one, is completey wrong to another, or many, depending upon how broad or narrow our experiences are.
I for one am interested in building layouts with a modern shortline theme. Its not a particulalry popular theme amongst the group.
As an example of circumstances influencing my experience in the hobby:
There have been times years ago where there were heavy dc vs dcc conversations in many threads. I took the opinion that operating multiple trains at one time was not a feasible activity, so there would be "no advantage for someone to have a nonsound dcc system that allows for multiple independent train control", rather than simply having dc. (I still have that opinion by the way )
I ran one train at a time, no matter how big the layout was. Always have, always will. So my right-minded opinion came (comes) from my circumstance.
Others have different circumstances. For instance, club style layouts, with many members needing to control many trains at the same time. DCC is much better than flipping toggle blocks for 5 operators.
And its not only a group thing.
Some lone wolfs like to model engine servicing. While only having one operator move one loco at a time, cramming 26 locos into a 20 SF engine servicing module would be a pain to wire and operate in DC. DCC is much better for that style of layout.
So while making a statement such as, for example, "there is no advantage to a DCC system over DC" might look correct to the person writing it, its actually quite wrong. The problem arises when the writer has no ability or willingness to comprehend how wrong they are.
And that's not a matter of opinion.
Douglas, well said. I was concidering a similar response to some of Mike's recent comments.
And was considering starting a new thread to do so.
For now at least, you saved me the trouble.
Sheldon
With apologies to the OP, I'm going to hijack this thread.
I'm sitting here feeling quite stressed by Lastspikemike's approach to the forums. I know that I am not alone in this. I know that Lastspikemike is upsetting other people too.
I enjoy the forums very much, so I have to ask why someone is permitted to be a participant when he frequently causes upset and friction. In the 14 years that I have participated in the forums I don't recall anyone who has poisoned the atmosphere to this extent.
If Kalmbach won't deal with the situation then I suggest that those of us who he has offended simply stop responding to his posts. There seems to be nothing to gain by doing so anyhow. Hopefully, not too many newcomers will fall victim to his assertions.
Sincerely,
Dave Warnica
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Well said, Dave
Thank you for speaking up.
Regards, Ed
Once again, apologies to the OP.
This is a note that I just sent to Steven Otte:
Hello Steven,
I'm sure that this is absolutely the last thing that you want to deal with on your Friday morning, but I have to speak my mind. To state it simply, Lastspikemike has upset a lot of people over the last few weeks. I'm sure that you are aware of that. Here is my stance:
I put a lot of effort into contributing to the forums, not that that gives me any more say than any other participant, but recently I have begun to dread reading any thread where Lastspikemike is posting his opinions. He is clearly upsetting many members of the forums, including me. I have come to fear what he says next and who he offends. My enjoyment of the forums has been severely diminished.
This person is clearly incapable of participating in the forums in an acceptable manner. He is absolutely entitled to his opinions, but he is not entitled to offend as many people as he has. As I said in the forums, in 14 years of forum participation I have never seen anyone who poisoned the atmosphere as much as he has.
I just posted a note suggesting that we try to ignore him. That may be an acceptable solution, but I strongly believe that it is your duty to maintain the friendly and respectful nature of the forums.
If I am out of line, please say so. I apologize for disturbing your day.