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Water Off the Edge
Posted by FRRYKid on Sunday, March 8, 2020 1:33 PM

Got yet another one for my Forum friends: What's the best way to finish the fascia on layouts when rivers and lakes carry off the edges of benchwork? My lake has the "water" carrying over the edge as it covers two sides of the benchwork. (I like the look that I have created.) However I am a bit confused on how to do it for a narrow (less than 25 ft wide) river that goes off the benchwork. (The other end is not seen so I'm not too worried about it.)  Any suggestions or pictures anyone has would be most welcomed.

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, March 8, 2020 1:40 PM

What type of water

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Sunday, March 8, 2020 2:40 PM

Luke Towan just stops the river at the edge.  I’m in the process of building a Diorama for taking pictures and using his videos as my reference.
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:16 PM

Both of my creeks/rivers stop at the edge.  I do have a small facia, they end right there.

You can see the river, flows under the bridge, and stops at the facia.

Show us what you did.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:21 PM

MRVP has poured right to the edge of the fascia.  They have also used plexiglass as the water, again right next to the fascia.

If I recall correctly, the used caulk and big piece of strene to contain the pour.  Things need to be sealed so the resin doesn't find it's ways through holes on onto the floor.  After it hardens, they pull off the styrene.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, March 8, 2020 4:48 PM

FRRYKid
What's the best way to finish the fascia on layouts when rivers and lakes carry off the edges of benchwork? My lake has the "water" carrying over the edge as it covers two sides of the benchwork. (I like the look that I have created.) However I am a bit confused on how to do it for a narrow (less than 25 ft wide) river that goes off the benchwork.

There are four waterways on  my layout...



...and the source for each of them is not seen.  Negro Creek, the Speed River, and Chippawa Creek all come from a source somewhere beyond the backdrop.
The Maitland River has its source somewhere in the aisle, but empties into a "suggestion" of Lake Erie, at the backdrop.

Chippawa Creek has its source somewhere out here...

...and it's visible here...

...but ends/continues on beyond the fascia....

The Maitland River's source is somewhere out in the aisle, or even well-beyond that, but our first glimpse of it is at the fascia...

...with a "suggestion" of Lake Erie towards the backdrop...not all that convincing in the photo above, but a bit better here...

...and perhaps here, too...

Negro Creek begins somewhere out there in the distance, but it's source is not visible...

...and it's not all that much more visible even where it meets the fascia...

...where it's assumed that it continues, much as does the rest of the layout.  I'll eventually cut the fascia to follow the contours of its banks, down to "water level".

The Speed River is not a completed scene (barely started, actually), but it begins somewhere behind the hill to the left, as does the road which follows alongside...

When the "water" is added, its visible portion will end at the fascia, which will be trimmed down to match the water level and the shape of the river's banks....

What's the point of having fascia if it doesn't serve to delineate the edge of the layout - after all, we assume that our railroad comes from somewhere and goes to somewhere else, just as our towns and countryside supposedly continue beyond whatever room we have to actually model some representation of them.
Water scenes are no different - we model that for which we have room, and hope that it's interesting enough that nobody asks "Where'd that river come from?"

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Posted by wp8thsub on Sunday, March 8, 2020 9:53 PM

All of my watercourses just terminate at the fascia as well.

Milton Scene 5

by wp8thsub, on Flickr

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The fascia acts as a cross-section, so everything ends there like the scene was sliced out of the world and deposited in the train room.

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Posted by FRRYKid on Sunday, March 8, 2020 11:00 PM

mbinsewi

Show us what you did.

This is a picture of what I did with the lake:

The covering is many coats of Gloss Medium with a base of Deep Lake paint. May be right or it may be wrong but that's what I decided to do. The river is a lot smaller.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, March 8, 2020 11:36 PM

All of my previous water, and now all of my future water has been made with Envirotex.

This requires a dam at the table edge when it is poured. The resulting edge of the water feature has always been acceptable to me.

Sorry, no pictures.

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Posted by Marc_Magnus on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:40 PM

My layout depict a line which follow a river

So a great part of the edge of the layout is "the river" side

I model in N scale and at some place the water is only 2.5"width.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:00 AM

Marc, even at that narrow width, it is still very effective of representing a waterfront trackage line.

Nicely done!

-Kevin

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:36 AM

FRRYKid
This is a picture of what I did with the lake:

OK, that's fine, what ever looks good to you is what counts.  You ran the water to the edge, and then some!   Your spills over the edge!....

Kinda like what most thought would happen to Columbus!... Laugh  

Looks good.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:45 AM

Same as everyone else - water stops at the fascia, which was a tiny bit higher than the water to act as a dam.

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