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odd building location challange
Posted by NVSRR on Friday, February 21, 2020 8:20 PM

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For those that like a challange.  What can I do with that spot of realestate?  That is the base piece for that wierd shaped spot.    dimensions written on it.  HO scale.  Setting is modern era in urban area where the old industrial buildings are being turned in to condos.  I am open to any ideas, just                                  cannt come up with anything.    What I do come up with ends up beinmg to big

 

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, February 21, 2020 8:29 PM

 Triangular buildings aren't all that rare. Are there tracks down any of the 3 sides? Could be a small warehouse, or manufacturing first - small appliances, motors, something like that. Even if you set the walls back an inch from those dimensions (so you have flat corners to put doors and windows), the shortest side is still more than 50' in HO, so not super tiny building. 3 stories might be about right.

 Or maybe a bank, or insurance, or something else more white collar. 

For modern era - an old manufacturing building, but one that has been turned in to a brewpub or a club.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, February 21, 2020 8:37 PM

I like Randy's ideas, I was going to suggest the same.  Triangle buildings are not odd, and built to fit the lot in real life.

You could start with any number of Walthers, or DPM kits,  or even using brick sheets, windows, and other seperatly bought details, and scratch out your own design.

Upper floors could be leased office space, or even high end apartments.

Many oppertunities and ideas come to mind.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, February 21, 2020 8:41 PM

I've long wanted to make a wedge shaped building.  If you live in an old east coast city, they are not that uncommon, the Flatiron Building is a famous one in NYC

I don't know how you would make a rounded end building or go that sharp, so I would set it back a couple inches from the narrowest part of the trapezoid.  

Look at these google images for ideas.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, February 21, 2020 9:27 PM

Hi Shane,

It is easy to kitbash a 'square' building into something that will fit your space. Here is an example of a DPM kit which has had its shape adjusted:

This building is too small and maybe too old to fit your needs, but my point is that it's easy to modify whatever building you want to. I would start by choosing a building which suits your layout, and has at least one wall that is suited to being on a streetfront and long enough to fill most of the length of the 'roadway' side of the space. One of the DPM kits like these might be a great place to start:

https://www.walthers.com/modular-building-system-tm-three-in-one-kit

https://www.walthers.com/modular-building-system-tm-four-in-one-1-kit

https://www.walthers.com/modular-building-system-tm-four-in-one-2-kit

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, February 21, 2020 10:13 PM

NVSRR
...That is the base piece for that wierd shaped spot....

Not weird at all, as you can build a structure in pretty-well any shape you need.
Here's National Grocers, in downtown Dunnville...

I have lots of tapered structures, too...

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, February 21, 2020 10:45 PM

Here's one on the prototype, situated between the PRR lift bridge and the former site of the ATSF coach yard just south of downtown Chicago. At one time, it was a large warehouse/factory, but it is now going condo.

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:33 AM

Didnt really think of it as a triangle. Mostly cause of that corner being cut off.  

i originally thought of a old 1950's gas station,  or a route 66 version.  Or old ice cream place.   Maybe abandoned.    The brew up or micro brewery is an idea.  Very little parking and a little to industrialurban towork. 
not so much the building as it is the business that ideas are needed.    What would be logical for such a location. That is very industrial. But changing

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:02 AM

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For those that like a challange.  What can I do with that spot of realestate?  That is the base piece for that wierd shaped spot.    dimensions written on it.  HO scale.  Setting is modern era in urban area where the old industrial buildings are being turned in to condos.  I am open to any ideas, just                                  cannt come up with anything.    What I do come up with ends up beinm

We are all going by what you asked for in your first post, especially the part about "old industrial buildngs are being turned in to condos".

Now the situation has changed a bit.  In an industrial area being remodeled and converted to condos, I don't think developers would allow an abandoned anything to be in the lot. 

At best, it would be an empty fenced in area, waiting for "it's turn" at redevolopment.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:02 AM

My pediatricians office was on the second floor of this building, now called Guilford Manor Apts.  Yes the front is curved as well.

https://tinyurl.com/tpxorqb

Warehouses and offices are now apartments, banks are restaurants and bars, law offices, retail spaces if you click on some of the pics in my google link on my first post, you will see other buildings that have been repurposed. 

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:15 AM

NVSRR

i originally thought of a old 1950's gas station,  or a route 66 version.  Or old ice cream place.   Maybe abandoned.    The brew up or micro brewery is an idea.  Very little parking and a little to industrialurban towork. not so much the building as it is the business that ideas are needed.    What would be logical for such a location. That is very industrial. But changing 

In a way, what difference does it make what type of industrial buiding it was if it is now being converted to condos? But, if you Google something like "types of warehouses and factories being converted to condos", there is a ton of articles about the changeover of early 20th century industrial buildings such as furniture makers, cold storage, breweries, baking companies, clothing manufacturers, candy makers, yada, yada, yada.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:18 AM

My thoughts exactly Rich.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:32 AM

Great minds think alike, Mike

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:35 AM

A vacant lot with galvonised fence around it and signs of lot for sale. Lots of weeds and some debris.

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:40 AM

Taking a 'walk' via google maps in those sections in Baltmore;

  • The Can Company in big block letters housing an Outback Steak House
  • Tindeco Wharf Condominiums
  • The Shipyard (condos I think) but there other development in old rail yards, such as Potomac Yards, Hudson Yards
  • A Sushi Restaurant
  • A Rental Center
  • A Kustom Motorcycle shop
  • Pawn broker
  • Pizza joint
  • Flower store
  • In Maryland the state doesn't own the liquor stores so there is what we call a package goods store on every block.
  • Tattoo parlor
  • Artist gallery

Baltimore has a harbor, but your city may have had a Tannery, Stockyard, a Mill fabric, or grain, a military installation, an auto factory.

edit maybe every block was an exageration but for 620,000 there are 20,797 liquor licenses, which would include restaurants that serve liquor.  No grocery stores sell beer and wine.   7-11's sell beer, I think.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:57 AM

BigDaddy
In Maryland the state doesn't own the liquor stores so there is what we call a package goods store on every block.

Interesting.  WI doesn't own the liquor stores, but they control the licensing aspect, and it goes by population, like a tavern.

East Troy, population 4000, has 6 bars, 3 of which have resturants, 2 liquor stores, 1 is in a major grocery chain, the other independent, and 3 gas stations that also sell liquor and beer.

You won't go thirsty in ET. Laugh

We call it "Drink Wisconsinably", on all types of clothing wear.

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:08 PM

I had no plans to convert this one to condos.  There is enough of that right there already.    The plot is way to small for any industry really.  Being in a (was originally) heavy industrial area (being mostly convert condo buildings now ). No street parking or parking lots exist. Making walk in customer traffic  only

out of the condos.  From a business stand point,  it not viable Location I liked the micro brew pub idea.     A gas station would be viable. But doesnt fit.  This plot is just small enough to be a problem. But looks much bigger than it is.   
I had been thinking abandonded trolly reverse loop here  for a long time.  A lot of those here in philly with odd shapes that have bbeen repurposed.  Turns out the space is just to small for that.   It is looking line the abandoned lot is the answer  even though i have a bunch of those already.  

havent ruled out the old plasticville buildings my mom has.  One of those reworked into a viable mogical business for the location might work.

 

would it be worth taking a pic of the actual location it is in?  An over all view. Not just the one with the sizes on it?

ironically.  A section of the city area that is still plywood.  I can now see it completed look because of the ideas put forth.    I am not even working over there yet or even thought of the urban planning.  

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:09 PM

Maybe i am putting to much business / real world logic into this.  I understand selective compression is required. But is still want it to seam logical

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, February 22, 2020 3:11 PM

Field trip to S Philly.

1 Wolfe St, the pic is too good not to share;

You are over thinking it.  Lots of buildings don't advertise what they are.

Surely they don't make jingle bells in this building and it's way too big, but model a window or two or three in length.  Bbrick or block in windows on the upper floor, have a loading dock, painted brick, unpainted brick, maybe graffiti if that's your thing.   It doesn't have to be anything.  A faded sign from what it used to be or an advertisement, that was common 70 years ago.

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:00 PM

BigDaddy

Field trip to S Philly.

1 Wolfe St, the pic is too good not to share;

You are over thinking it.  Lots of buildings don't advertise what they are.

Surely they don't make jingle bells in this building and it's way too big, but model a window or two or three in length.  Bbrick or block in windows on the upper floor, have a loading dock, painted brick, unpainted brick, maybe graffiti if that's your thing.   It doesn't have to be anything.  A faded sign from what it used to be or an advertisement, that was common 70 years ago.

 

 

Out of all the trips through various areas of philly (like south ) for various infrastructure projects,  I have not come accross that building.  note the cobblestone street too.  

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:10 PM

i had to look that up.  behind the camera is a large lowes  behind this buiding is the philadelphia belt line railroad.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:53 AM

Why not leave it as a park with fountain and benches? 

If you really want an industry, you could go for something small like a small AA/LPG dealer.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:41 AM

There are some pics in the show me something spread of partially demolished buildings.

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