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Will it fit in the space I have?
Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:48 PM

Hello, I have a HO scale shadow box/ shelf layout. I would like to incorporate a Walthers New River mine on my layout . Problem is, in the area that I want it, I'm kind of limited for how deep the shelf can be. I've looked up the dimensions of the mine complex, but I'm not sure which dimension is depth and which one is length. In this particular area of the layout, which runs perpendicular to my bed in my bedroom, I'd like to keep the layout no deeper than 12 to 14 in. Does anybody have this mine on their layout and maybe put a tape to it and let me know if I can squeeze it in 12 or 14 in? Thank you for any help you can give me.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:59 PM

It's Walthers number 933-3017.  Look it up on the Walthers site, scroll down just below the picture, and you can download the instructions and the foot print as a PDF file, and make it work.

https://www.walthers.com/new-river-mining-company-kit-main-building-12-1-2-x-9-x-9-3-8-quot-31-2-x-22-5-x-23-2cm

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Posted by kasskaboose on Monday, March 11, 2019 8:56 AM

The New River model would work in that space.  I like how Walthers provides a footprint for their models.  They also give suggestions on modifying their items to fit your layout. 

For dimensions it's always length by with by volume. 

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Monday, March 11, 2019 12:39 PM
Thanks Mike I didn't know they provided that info. Very helpful!
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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 11, 2019 12:59 PM

Just about all of the CornerStone buildings have that, you just need to know the Walthers number.

If your searching on Walthers, and the number you give does not come up with anything, go to Advanced search, fill in a couple of the areas, go way to bottom, and click on the box that says " Include disscontinued and out of stock products".  That usually gives results.

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Posted by snjroy on Monday, March 11, 2019 3:20 PM

Hi there. On the Walthers product page for that model, there is a box on the lower right of the screen, with a button labelled FOOTPRINT. That button downloads a PDF file. It says that the model is 12.5" deep and 9" wide, plus the slack building. It sure is smaller than it looks!

That could be tight for your shelf layout. Of course, you can always use a razor saw and cut off part of the rear end of the building, if it's too tight.  By the way, there are many other kits out there that might fit better in that space - but most represent older mines that might not fit with your era.

Good luck!

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Posted by hornblower on Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:15 PM

Keep in mind that you can also make a large structure fit into a smaller space by cutting back the side(s) you won't see and placing the structure against your backdrop.  Some careful measuring and cutting can be involved and you may have to reinforce the resulting opening but its not really difficult.  The idea is similar to that of the "background" building kits sold by Walthers and others.  The difference is that you decide how much of the building stands off the backdrop and even at what angle.  I have a roundhouse that required the back corner of one stall be cut back about a half inch to make it fit in the desired space.  After carefully marking where the cut needed to be, I used a razor saw to cut off the corner of the building then carefully sanded the cut to fit tight against the backdrop.  I then removed the remaining roof and side wall pieces from the cut of portion of the back wall and trimmed it to fit inside the new opening in the rear of the building.  Not only did this reinforce the corner of the structure, it made it difficult to see the corner of the building was missing when you looked inside the roundhouse.  An alternative is to place the structure against the aisle.  Same idea but the "cut" faces the viewer.  Fill the opening(s) using plain sheet styrene and paint the resulting blank walls the same color as your fascia.  You can also use the discarded pieces of the structure kit to "expand" the building or use to kitbash completely different structures.  The sky's the limit!

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Friday, March 15, 2019 5:18 AM

I may take someone's advice an try finding another mine model that is smaller. I've been looking a the Model Power Old Mine kit  which appears to be the same kit as a AHM minikit mine. Has anyone built one of these? Would it be appropriate for the transition Era? 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, March 15, 2019 9:15 AM

Santa Fe all the way!
Model Power Old Mine kit  which appears to be the same kit as a AHM minikit mine. Has anyone built one of these? Would it be appropriate for the transition Era? 

It looks like they are the same kit!  I think they would be fine.  In life, your mine would have been established years ago,  but I don't think you'd want the scene with too much deteriation, like these kit show. 

Maybe modernize them just a little, so they represent something that has had some up-keep to it.

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Posted by cuyama on Friday, March 15, 2019 10:14 AM

kasskaboose
For dimensions it's always length by with by volume. 

No. It's length by width by height.

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Posted by Doughless on Friday, March 15, 2019 11:17 AM

Walthers also has a smaller coal loding kit called Coal Flood Loader.  Takes up much less space.  The idea is that the actual mine is a ways away, and conveyors take the coal from the mine to the loader.

https://www.walthers.com/coal-flood-loader-kit-4-x-6-x-11-quot-10-2-x-15-2-x-27-9cm

 

 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:01 PM

FWIW, didn't like the "old mine kit" and it ended up scrap parts. Short of craftsman kits I have been happiest with Walthers structures even if I never build them as designed. J.R.

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