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Expanding A 4x8 along a wall

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Expanding A 4x8 along a wall
Posted by Harrison on Saturday, September 1, 2018 12:22 PM

My exsisting layout is a 4x8 that I had in the middle of one side of the basement, so I could walk around it. the staging yard is a flip down. Now, I have moved it to a corner of the basement, so I can expand the staging yard along the wall, as well as model a scene I didn't have room for on my layout.This is the original plan.

Layout_1

The is the new plan, with the Rouses Point siding and Champlain Plastics. The prototype can be found here.

Layout_1 - Copy

I would like suggestions on the track plan, modeling, and benchwork please.

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, September 1, 2018 12:29 PM

Harrison,

First and foremost: Have you considered the awkward reach across your 4' span now that the layout is up against the wall?  Most modelers suggest not exceeding 30".

You might want to consider a pop-out section, or moving the layout from the wall a min. of 2'.

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Posted by Harrison on Saturday, September 1, 2018 12:43 PM

The top side of the layout on the plan out from the wall so I can walk behind it.

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Posted by gregc on Sunday, September 2, 2018 5:15 AM

i assume that what you have in mind is to model a length of the prototype and its industries.   probably have fascia industries against the wall on the extension and spurs for those industries.

have you considered adding several staging tracks at the bottom of  your extention with an escape track allong with industries on the upper closer to the loop.

if you add a reversing section to your loop, a train can leave staging, drop-off/pick-up cars on trailing spurs on the way out,  reverse direction, switch trailing spurs on the way back to staging.   The escape track allows the locomotive to get out from in front of the returning train.

this approach avoid backing trains up for long distances.   Consider the San Jacinto Dist. and the Chester Valley RR

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Posted by snjroy on Sunday, September 2, 2018 8:27 AM

Hi there. It should reflect what you like about the hobby. I like steam, with some main line for operations, so I would put a return loop bottom right. If your 4x8 is meant to be your main track, the around the wall section would be too much space for staging track, given the size of the main. Then again, if you like switching and building rolling stock, then yard space is what you want. If you like building structures, then plan space for that.

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Posted by peahrens on Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:57 AM

Be sure to consider the "S" curves on the right in terms of what equipment (car lengths) you will be running.  Ensure they are gentle enough as well as visually pleasing.

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Posted by Doughless on Sunday, September 2, 2018 10:00 AM

Harrison

The top side of the layout on the plan out from the wall so I can walk behind it.

Ok, so its not all the way in the corner of the room. 

First of all, have you operated your original layout and what are the issues with that, if any?

From my view from afar:

Getting behind it provides an opportunity to split the table into two distinct scenes.  How about a scenic divider angled along the open space?

Might have to lose the small switchback siding, which would be a good sacrifice, IMO.

You could have a larger, more robust version of this excellent plan, which has the yard on the 4x8, whereas you could have it along the wall and close the loop on the table:

Image result for 4 x 8 ho scale track plans

 

 And another idea, with a mainline interchange running long the wall.

Image result for 4 x 8 ho scale track plans

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Posted by floridaflyer on Sunday, September 2, 2018 10:15 AM

I second Greg's idea of a reversing section, allows out and back operation

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Posted by Harrison on Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:23 PM

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Posted by snjroy on Saturday, September 8, 2018 6:36 AM

Hi there. I don't know about others but I can only see one picture on the Website you are pointing to...

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Posted by Harrison on Monday, September 10, 2018 7:38 AM

snjroy

Hi there. I don't know about others but I can only see one picture on the Website you are pointing to...

Simon

 

I am using google photos for my blog. I have tried to fix the problem, maybe i'll try again.

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Modeling the D&H in 1978.

Route of the famous "Montreal Limited"

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Posted by Harrison on Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:02 AM

Started test fitting the track.

 

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